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Jerry Adams
When the moment occurs, your conscience will decide. Afterwards, you may get to live with the decision.
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When the moment occurs, your conscience will decide. Afterwards, you may get to live with the decision.
dmort
Active member
Interesting thread and a good read.
As for myself I don't own any pistols, and the ones I did have weren't for self defense... more for the collector.
Getting a carry/concealed permit is easy here in Idaho if you have a clean record. I don't have an interest in this because I don't really feel threatened and not wanting to deal with the responsibility of taking someone's life. If I lived in an area with a high crime rate, I might feel a little different.
I do strongly believe that whatever decision you make in life is yours, and you will have to deal with the outcome, good, bad, or otherwise.
Mort
As for myself I don't own any pistols, and the ones I did have weren't for self defense... more for the collector.
Getting a carry/concealed permit is easy here in Idaho if you have a clean record. I don't have an interest in this because I don't really feel threatened and not wanting to deal with the responsibility of taking someone's life. If I lived in an area with a high crime rate, I might feel a little different.
I do strongly believe that whatever decision you make in life is yours, and you will have to deal with the outcome, good, bad, or otherwise.
Mort
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And where does this "conscience" come from??
LOL!!
I say this because I've lived it....... For real. Earlier I reacted to preaching, folks who take it upon theyselves to tell others' how "they should be".
Let me preach about "conscience" or "That Still, Small Voice" as it were. I grew up where it was a "sin" to fish and hunt on Sunday. Legal in the eyes of the state, but a sin in the eyes of the (my) church. So, here I am, I'm a "Good Christian kid"......I'm 8yrs old when my parents moved us to Minnesota.... and all our church friends skipped church Opening Day to hunt and fish ......... on Sunday!
And I know that many of you'se on this board are aware of this idea, it's still illegal to hunt and fish by state law in some parts of the South, or was until just recently. I do know for actual FACT that my old boss in MN hailed originally from Nakina NC and when he snuck off to fish of a Sunday afternoon ("legal" in MN of course) he chafed and squirmed and scuffled his feet for DAYS.....
So, I get it....
OOOhhhhh my freakin' "conscience!"
It took this kid many years to learn that "conscience" is a learned thing, a taught thing, a contrived thing..... and in many cases a POWER thing.
So, take your stand where you choose. Jackie I applaud you for taking a stand.....and I'm side-by-side on this one..... but I pray you NEVER catch me preaching to you about where or how to take that stand
and if you do, feel free to slap me silly cuz what's right for ME ain't necessarily what's right for any of y'all.....rant OFF
well, OK,
'MUR'ca!
LOL
al
antelopedundee
internet bum
Getting a permit in Iowa used to be at the pleasure of the county sheriff and some were considerably more pleasurable than others. Now they pretty much have to give you one if you qualify. Easy enough to get if you want one. Then again I don't think you need one if you have it in your home. So there's that.
Hunter
Runnin' Along
Having trouble finding the cite to your statement? That doesn't surprise me.
Dave Coots
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The Sherriff in my county gave out very few permits until the new law. He said why should the public be armed as well as himself.
Dave
antelopedundee
internet bum
If there is a duty [moral or otherwise] to protect then it should have behooved him to have given them out like ice-water. I doubt that would have flown here in Story County as a reason to carry.
R
retired
Guest
Al interesting story and a first for me. Growing up we hunted no matter what day it might be. During the season that is and church we were taught was where everywhere we might be. Not just on Sunday's and in a building you see as the cow's still needed milking and all the chores in between. Ain't saying we never went or didn't believe and have spent time down on our knees but not greater than thou by any means.
Dave Coots
64 Chevy 409 10.42 129
I don't understand what you mean. I didn't give any reason to carry????
For once I agree with retired in post 69.
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antelopedundee
internet bum
I know you didn't, but prior to the new law in Iowa one had to provide the sheriff with a reason for wanting to carry; something like having been threatened, carry large sums of money, employment, etc. Wanting to play cop so you could protect your fellow man likely wasn't a good reason. If the sheriff didn't like your reason/s then you didn't get a permit tho some were more lenient than others in granting them.
I can agree with retired on that one too except we don't live in a free world and likely never will.
jackie schmidt
New member
For what it is worth, the Texas Law takes the matter completely out of the hands of local officials.
Texas Law is defined as a "shall" law. It states that if an applicant meets the requirements, He or She shall be issued a Permit. No asking the Sheriff or anyone else's permission.
Texas Law is defined as a "shall" law. It states that if an applicant meets the requirements, He or She shall be issued a Permit. No asking the Sheriff or anyone else's permission.
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R
retired
Guest
most sheriffs are political officers, so political answers to permits. san diego was the worst. friends only got them.
in co they have 90 days to say no or issue...have to have a REASON to say no.
shall issue state, i think az is similar...except you do not need a permit, but you can have them.
in co they have 90 days to say no or issue...have to have a REASON to say no.
shall issue state, i think az is similar...except you do not need a permit, but you can have them.
antelopedundee
internet bum
That's what we have here now too. Constitutional Carry got set back because someone neglected to get it published in newspapers as required.
https://patch.com/iowa/ames/s/gljbm/pro-nra-iowa-official-flubs-sets-gun-rights-amendment-4-years?utm_source=article-mostrecent&utm_medium=rss&utm_term=politics%20%26%20government&utm_campaign=recirc&utm_content=aol
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They tried that crap out here about "gotta' have a reason".... my wife got licensed in something like 36 states but was hung up on getting OR, which is literally 20 miles away from us, PORTLAND that is.
Oregon had this "gotta' have a reason" thing going on, I said go tell him your reason is "you want to carry a gun."
They issued it, no fuss.
Since't there's religion in this thread..... I'll share another view. I don't think those officials are typically "being obstructive" nor do they even "have a liberal agenda"... they're just larcenous, and dumb. Jesus said "forgive them for they know not what they do"
I'm trying
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al
Oregon had this "gotta' have a reason" thing going on, I said go tell him your reason is "you want to carry a gun."
They issued it, no fuss.
Since't there's religion in this thread..... I'll share another view. I don't think those officials are typically "being obstructive" nor do they even "have a liberal agenda"... they're just larcenous, and dumb. Jesus said "forgive them for they know not what they do"
I'm trying
LOL
al
That's because in some oblique manner he's justifying preaching from the Holy Bible ("the book") but without referring to it by name, "The Book," or "The Holy Bible" or "The Good Book" and it's "He who sacrificed"....... upper case, as in "He" or "Him" or "God" or "Yahweh" ......
Lois.J, you gonna' preach.... PREACH MAN!! ........ if you claim belief then do your God a favor, capitalize His name
And I too am waiting with bated breath for a cite.
Butch Lambert
Active member
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