Jerry Reisdorff
New member
Will LVS and HVS be Split now
Or will I just end up with 1st and 2nd place vfs with my hvs and lvs rifles ?
Or will I just end up with 1st and 2nd place vfs with my hvs and lvs rifles ?
The agenda item was amended to disallow the shooting of multiple guns of the same class. You can still shoot a LVS gun and a HVS gun as they are different classes. Hal
Here's my question: Are there now seperate and distinct classes for the LV and HV guns with seperate winners/finishing places/points being awarded? In others words...a true LVfS class and a true HVfS class?
Here's my question: Are there now seperate and distinct classes for the LV and HV guns with seperate winners/finishing places/points being awarded? In others words...a true LVfS class and a true HVfS class? In the past, we've been all lumped together into one VfS class...but divided into LV and HV only for purposes of potential records. Or has that not changed and the competitor shooting both a LV and a HV must designate a single rifle as his 'points' gun?l
'Morning, Hal. Thanks for the update...sounds like it was a productive meeting.
Here's my question: Are there now seperate and distinct classes for the LV and HV guns with seperate winners/finishing places/points being awarded? In others words...a true LVfS class and a true HVfS class? In the past, we've been all lumped together into one VfS class...but divided into LV and HV only for purposes of potential records. Or has that not changed and the competitor shooting both a LV and a HV must designate a single rifle as his 'points' gun?
Half the country away and wondering..... -Al
G'Morning Al,
The LV & HV are still lumped together as VFS, based on the fact that there are not enough competitors at most matches to make for a decent number of competitors in either class if split. This has always been the "show stopper" (mainly because of Precision Rifleman points) regarding the split.
The meeting was productive and everyone's conduct was (with the exception of only a few comments) very reasonable. It would have been good to have you attend...........maybe next year?
-Dave-
'Morning, Hal. Thanks for the update...sounds like it was a productive meeting.
Here's my question: Are there now seperate and distinct classes for the LV and HV guns with seperate winners/finishing places/points being awarded? In others words...a true LVfS class and a true HVfS class? In the past, we've been all lumped together into one VfS class...but divided into LV and HV only for purposes of potential records. Or has that not changed and the competitor shooting both a LV and a HV must designate a single rifle as his 'points' gun?
Half the country away and wondering..... -Al
The agenda item was amended to disallow the shooting of multiple guns of the same class. You can still shoot a LVS gun and a HVS gun as they are different classes. You cannot shoot 2 HVS, 2 LVS, 2 HTR, or 2 VH in the same match...However, there is a caveat. If a competitor wishes to shoot more than one HVS rifle, he can do so by not registering the 2nd rifle. It is up to the hosting club if they will allow this practice. This has always been an option to competitors. The unregistered rifle cannot be scored along with the registered rifles' on the line that day, and obviously doesn't qualify for SOY or PR points.
Hal
IBS Rules already allow the running of separate true LVS and HVS classes however doing so typically will reduce the number of shooters to a point where neither class will earn Precision Rifleman points. The only thing that really happened on this rule change as I see it was the removal of shooting two rifles of the same class for instance 2 HV or 2 LV , or for that matter 2 Hunters or 2 Var-Htrs. (you can however shoot a second LV as a HV or 2nd Hunter as a VH.
As to SSOY points as I see it that is yet to be determined since rules for SSOY are in the hands of the Score Committee.
Dick
David, I am not sure I understand what you mean about the 6x being a single class. If you are talking about SSOY points, then yes, I agree; but otherwise VH and Htr are two distinct classes, each with their own awards and plagues, at least everywhere I have shoot. I agree with you that VFS is a single class made up of a combination of LV and HV guns both for the purposes of placement/plagues and SSOY points. Randy J.
HBR and Vhtr are seperate. But as a "class" they are one and the same. Just as LVFS and HVFS are one and the same. Only for records is there a difference either one of them
I have to disagree with you on this one. IBS recognizes Hunter and Varmint Hunter as separate classes. It is for shooter of the year that they are viewed as one...the top three 6 power shooters(regardless of whether they shot hunter class or varmint hunter class)are the ones that earn shooter of the year points. I'm not sure if PRECISION RIFLEMAN POINTS are awarded the same way int he two 6 power classes. It isn't clear in the rule book.
Regarding OFFICIAL IBS SCORE SHOOTING CLASSES"
PAGE 17/29 of the on-line RULE BOOK:
"Score Shooting
A. Purpose
5) To attract shooters not previously engaged in Competitive Target Shooting
6) To improve hunting rifle accuracy and effects of components used therein
7) To better acquaint shooters with their rifles and competitive sportsmanship
B. Classifications
1) HUNTER CLASS shall be fired with any cartridge with no less than 30-30 Win case capacity. This is accepted as 45 grains of water to the top of the neck. It shall be fired with a rifle meeting the rules described in Section VI.C
2) VARMINT - HUNTER CLASS shall be fired with any centerfire cartridge. The rifle shall meet the rules as described in Section VI. C
3) VARMINT FOR SCORE shall be fired with any rifle meeting the Light Varmint or Heavy Varmint rules as described SECTIONS V.B.2 and V.B.3 of this rulebook. Records will be recognized for Light Varmint and Heavy Varmint Rifles but both rifles shall compete as a single centerfire class. Rimfire rifles shall compete as separate Light Varmint and Heavy Varmint classes. There shall be no distinction between Light Varmint and Sporter records. They shall be considered singly as a 10 1/2 pound class."
Granted, we do not shoot IBS down here. But, many of us are IBS members, and we never know what the future might bring.
........jackie