Yikes! XR-100 Discontinued!

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Tyler,
If I could get that kind of group out of my 204 or 22's, I think I'd wet my drawers-kick'in!-Stan:)Share your sport.
 
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Tyler,
If I could get that kind of group out of my 204 or 22's, I think I'd wet my drawers-kick'in!-Stan:):cool:Share your sport.
 
Chisolm: Thank you so very much for the "tip" on the XR-100 in 22-250! I am heading for the Post Office soon to get a money order for the Rifle in question!
Had a nice chat with the current owner of the XR-100 last night and I think I will give it a try.
Thanks again!

Talon1959: My XR-100 in 204 Ruger has a long throat (IMO) but it still shoots VERY well indeed!
Let me list for you the last 4 (four) five shot groups at 100 yards this Rifle has made: .421", .374", .402" & .322"!
Now remember Talon1959 these groups were made with Varmint Hunting type bullets and a Varmint Hunting type scope!
My friends with XR-100's in 204 have had just the opposite reaction to them as your friends have - my friends love them!
This brings us to the topic of long throats vs. accuracy!
In my experience, just because a Rifle has a long throat DOES NOT MEAN that you can not get pleasing accuracy from it!
I have shot EXCELLENT groups with handloads having their bullets seated 1/20th of an inch from the leades of the Rifling, MANY times.
Granted I would prefer that factory folks would keep the throats of the chamber to the short side, but in and of itself a long throat is no reason to sell or give up on a Rifle.
Believe me when I tell you I have and am HAPPY with a bunch of factory Rifles with long throats.
Indeed, in over 45 years of shooting Rifles I have on MANY occassions seen accuracy in a particular Rifle INCREASE simply by SHORTENING the cartridges over all length - in other words "artificially lengthening the neck" - or in other words lengthening the jump of the bullet to the leades of the rifling.
Again a long neck or chamber throat is no reason in and of itself to give up on a Rifle.
Those XR-100's may not have shot well but there are a myriad of reasons that may happen - as we all know - the other side of the coin is many XR-100's (some with long throats!) do shoot well.
Still I think its a shame that nifty little single shot bolt action Rifle won't be offered anymore.
How about the savage Rifles you own, how do their throats come from the factory? Short, medium, long?
Heres to accurate factory hybrid Rifles - salude!

Butch: Thanks for that tip I will save his info. Yesterday I got a tip on a used but like new XR-100 in 22-250 that I am following up on.
Thanks again.

Tyler: Those "first shot fliers" have bugged me for decades! I attribute it to Break Free soaked barrels and like you say on a 20 degree day that would be some cold steel that first bullet is travelling down!

Headed for the Post Office - thanks all.

Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
 
That took extensive load development for sure. My rifle has very little headspace for a factory stick...0.002" to be exact.

But to be fair, those are three shots through the tiny hole and the cold-bore low and right of it. With cold-bore it was a suitable group a bit over .5 moa. This thing shoots well, but not usually that well! Usually 3 shot groups are clover-leafed in the high .2s and low .3s. Five shot groups generally run about .35 moa. Good enough for my prairie dog hunting!
 
Varmintguy:

I've rarely seen a rifle that didn't have a cold-bore flyer. Mine is consistent and within MOA, so it does not bother me too much.
 
Lefty o: Your deprecating (expression of disapproval) statements regarding the folks at Remington I think are ambiguous and specious (without merit).
Name one company that is not interested in "turning a buck" quickly.
And people BUY their products!
I for one have not turned away from them!
I think that anyone that has is cutting off their own nose to spite their own face!
They make some excellent products both Rifles and shotguns!
Every product that Remington makes is not "FOR" everyone! If you don't like the 710's - don't buy them.
But they do have an EXTENSIVE lineup of firearms and products and folks seem to be buying them about as fast as they are made (or imported)!
If you have proof to the contrary please provide!
Remington naysayers and besmirchers have been predicting the demise of Remington for the past 4 decades that I know of - they are still in business and still producing the best selling factory Rifle (the Model 700!) ON EARTH!
And PLENTY of people are still buying them.
Again you have every right to complain about specific problems you have or had with Remington products, but your ambiguous and mean spirited musings about the Remington line is unfair and unwarranted.
In the past 15 days I have bought 3 Rifles with the Remington name on them - obviously I am not persuaded by baseless condemnations like yours.
Long live Remington Arms Company!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
 
Tyler02: My Remington 700 VLS in 204 Ruger is all stock with no modifications as yet.
Its last two five shot groups at 100 yards measured .480" and .398"! I have been real happy with this Rifle and its the first 204 I bought.
I have about 850 rounds down the tube now (I brought it online in April of 2,004) and the barrel still looks quite "fresh".
This Rifle shot factory ammo (Hornady 40 grainers, which was all that was available back when the 204's were new) in the mid 4's! That may not be saying much for my handloading abilities but thats the way it was.
Wishing you continued good luck and happiness with your Remington in 204 caliber.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
 
varmintguy, i just call it how i see it. never said you had lead your life based on my opinion of remingtons quality of late. if you take my opinion of remington personally , you've got bigger issues to worry about.
 
Remington Quality

Well said Varmint. You made some excellent points about
the quality and character of Remington Arms.

You forgot to mention that Remington rifles are "easy on
the eyes" as compared to their competitors offerings. :cool:

Lefty o,

What kind of rigs do you play with???
 
Remmy's are easy on the eyes!

And quality, well I've got a group posted up there. I'm just an ignorant trigger yanker and they shoot well for me ;)
 
i bought the xr-100 in .308 and was not impressed with the way it shot at all .9in 5 shot group at 200yrd with168gn nosler custom competition bullets was the best i could get from it .75 5 shot group at 100 same bullet,tried different seating depths, cleaning methods, and bullets but those worked the best , I also found it to be a constant struggle to keep the copper out of the barrell even when cleaning after each 5 shot group.had it pillar bedded tryed different scope, different mounts, new brass nothing seemed to work to make it shoot nomatter who was pulling the trigger. but on the other hand the action worked great to build a new rifle off of it, Krieger #17 barrel in 6.5x .284 win new hs. precision stock just getting brass formed and barrell broke in shot .3 in at 100 and we havent even started workin a load up yet.
 
H-S makes a stock for the XR-100? Mind posting a picture of your rifle? I'd like to see it.
 
not realy for the xr 100 as we found out the hard way the short action rem 700 is around .75 inches longer than the xr 100 acton so we had to fill the slot for the bolt and make a new one if i can figure out how to post a picture i will
 
333smitty, ive got a little of everything. 700's, mod70's, savages, coopers, and others. the 700 is still a good rifle, my assesment of remington is based on the junk they are currently importing, and the 710/770 P.O.S.
 
here is a couple of pics of my rebuilt xr 100 , also the front screw for the action had to be moved turned out to be more work than we expected but it turned out good. paint is a duracoat pattern.
 

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Lefty o: Its not that you have an opinion, lefty o, that bothers me - its that your opinion is baseless and mean spirited AND without any merit what so ever!
You have enough to worry about without concerning yourself about "MY issues"!
One thing you should worry about (and it should be very high on your worry list!) is you being so wrong about something so self evident.
Remington Arms Companies Rifles and sales are doing quite well, despite your naysaying and snide remarks regarding them!
If you have some proof Remingtons are not selling well and the Company is on the verge of bankruptcy please provide it!
If not keep your baseless opinions to yourself - it demeans you and provides NO truthful or helpful insight to anyone else.
And, now and then, you will run across a person (such as myself!) that will not put up with your baseless and mean spirited BS and will call you on it!
You've been called lefty o.
Remington Arms Company is not perfect (nothing is!) but to slather about insinuations of greed and unworthy and unwanted products again is simply not helpful.
Long live Big Green!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
 
Remington has the XR-100 listed as available on their website under "products"

see link - http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/xR-100_rangemaster.asp

chambered in 204, 223, and 22-250.

Has anyone called Remington to confirm if this model has been discontinued ?

My distributor has many in stock and has recv'd no word from Remington that this model has been abandoned.

if Big Green threw in the towel on the XR, it's quite certain their bean counters are more concerned about quantity vs. quality

blake
 

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alright varmintguy, they may not go belly up tomorrow or even next year, but they are selling some mighty juky guns right now. the 710/770 are just cheap junk, care to disagree. their mausers are the old interarms mkX, not a good quality rifle, but they sure decided to jack up the price once they stamped the remington name on it. now lets get to the russian built shotguns they are passing off, they are crudely built- ever take one apart, i have lets say it is some of the poorest excuse for machine work ive ever seen inside of a gun. so are my claims still baseless? i dont think so. the 700, and 870 are still good guns, and are what will keep remington afloat- not all the other trash they are passing off. so out of all the guns remington is selling, 2 are of good quality that you can expect to last a long time, and the rest arent worth what they cost, so yeah, i guess im being mean spirited.
 
Remington

I have just gotten serious into rifles but have lots of years behind shotgun stocks. When I was a skeet-a-holic I was shooting 13,000 rounds a year in my 1100 and my Krieghoff K-32. I have always been impressed with how the 1100 swings and fits most folks out of the box. I somehow collected 12 Remmy autos over the years and won't part with any of them. MOre 1100's have won world titles in skeet and trap than any other auto combined.

My only complaint about the Remington matte finish shotguns is that they seem to rust in the box. I fixed that by having the receiver and bbl teflon coated beacuse we hunt the salt marsh of the Texas coast.

I plan to take the XR-100 .308 out tomorrow to see how the new LOP works for me. I think I have it fitting better now. I am also just an ignorant trigger yanker shooting off sand bags with a bone stock XR. If I can't get happy with the fit and feel of the thumbhole stock, I will sell it.

On the Rem 710/770, I handled one and though what a POS! A guy came to the range with one to sight it in for his first deer hunt. He was next to me and after about 7-8 shots he had that $275 rifle shooting about 1.5" consitantly. He shot a box a shells fairly quick and then happily went on his way. Would I own one? No, but I do know that remington has sold a LOT of them and they seem to fit the bill for they were designed for.

I guess I am a fan of Remington and admire their moxy to try to keep up with the demands of a very fickle public.

I'm just thankful that we still live (for now) in a country where we can enjoy our guns and sit around the computer and swap information and achievements. All good. :)
 
Lefty-o: You cite Remington ONLY making 2 (two!) firearms that are not "trash" or "junk" well I beg to differ with you - in the extreme!
Starting with shotguns let me hear you call their 1100's a piece of trash OR their 11-87's OR their new 105CTi, or their Premier Grade over and unders OR their Premier STS Competition shotguns or any of the 1100 Competition shotguns OR their SP (Special Purpose) line of waterfowl and Turkey guns OR their new SPR 453 or any of the Model 1100 Tactical shotguns?
Next lets move over to their offerings in Rifles and see how you could possibly justify calling their Model 7 line of Rifles OR their 40X line of Rifles OR their new R-15 (AR type) Rifle or their 597 line up OR their beautiful Model 547's as junk and trash!
I am willing to BET that you can't honestly describe those arms as "junk" OR "trash"!
Even if you did try there would be millions of shooters that have and will disagree with you who have and will buy them - NOT just me!
If you do not like the 710's or their newish Mauser style Rifles then don't buy them but don't try to besmirch the whole extensive lineup of Remington Arms by pointing out that these lower end arms are ALL that Remington is!
Nothing could be further from the truth!
And, I am taking this opportunity to let it be known that your type "mean spirited" condemnation is neither factual not effective!
AND I will publicly state again that the PURPOSE of enterprise and business is to make a "BUCK"! Sheesh man you burp that up like its un-American or something - ITS NOT!
Its the basis of our successful capitalist system!
Sheesh!
I heartily recommend you stop cutting of your nose to spite your face and try some of Remingtons best selling arms and when you do I am betting that you will be pleased with them.
I know I sure have been!
You might take some consideration of Talon1959's observations of the "inexpensive" Remington Rifle he saw performing at the range recently?
Just a thought!
Your over-zealous condemnation of Remingtons line-up of arms, again I state is baseless and mean spirited.
I invite you to try and prove me wrong.
I am glad you are coming around on the fact that the successful folks at Remington are not about to "go under" like some Remington "naysayers" have been predicting for the last 40 years (that I know of).
Long live Big Green!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
 
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