What thing(s) you do not like on the seb rest?

AI,
Another way is, to use a "wing nut" (M6x1.0 thread about 1" long). Replace one of the tension screws with a wing nut.
You might find the wing nut easily in your local hardware store.
Just a thought...

Do your rest have a little "jam screw" under the "front" bearing? If so, you can tighten or loosen this screw to add or reduce the tension.

seb.
 
Seb,
I got the bearings from Brisbane bearings at Geebung.
http://www.brisbanebearings.com/23.html?gclid=CNDWheb9tZkCFU0wpAodIRp86A

I explained I wanted bearings with minimum free play and they ordered in bearings which they described as Teflon bearings as used in the aircraft industry. They had the same dimensions as the bearings you use. They were quite expensive at $40 + each. I don't know how long they will last as I have only been using them for a month.

I'm sorry I can't give you a part number as I no longer have the receipt. I'm sure if you contact this company they will be able to help you.

Good luck with your survey
Allan
 
Seb,
I got the bearings from Brisbane bearings at Geebung.
http://www.brisbanebearings.com/23.html?gclid=CNDWheb9tZkCFU0wpAodIRp86A

I explained I wanted bearings with minimum free play and they ordered in bearings which they described as Teflon bearings as used in the aircraft industry. They had the same dimensions as the bearings you use. They were quite expensive at $40 + each. I don't know how long they will last as I have only been using them for a month.

I'm sorry I can't give you a part number as I no longer have the receipt. I'm sure if you contact this company they will be able to help you.

Good luck with your survey
Allan
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Allan,
Thanks you for the informations.:)
Yes you're right, I've been looking for bearings with minimum/no free play. (but still no luck).
Will survey....seb.
 
simple thought from simple minds

You can try to pass this off anyway you want to. One's greed must be satisfied, no matter what, aye? Every little bit helps ( remember the lesson of the little boy who stuck his finger inthe dyke?)

We benchreste shouldn't have any special status. We should all do our part to help our country. If you don't care enough about the way things are here to help then so be it. It's the Large Companies that have taken us ino this mess so we can't look at them for anything except stealing from us all. We are the only ones who can do anything to help.

What a crock. No one, not one person in the USA is forced to do business with "Large Companies". It's the US Government which has taken us into this mess, with outrageous transgressions against capitalism and outrageous imposition of taxation. And you know what, no one, not one person in the USA -- except for illegal aliens, which they welcome in by the millions -- is exempt from doing business with the Feds. They have a monopoly, and YOU HAVE NO CHOICE.

Don't want to buy a SEB rest? Then don't, and quit your whining. And you need to lighten up, Francis.

Don't want to buy Lapua? Don't.

Don't want to buy a March scope? Don't.

Don't want to buy an Anschutz trigger? Don't.

Don't want to pay your taxes? Go to jail. And it's our taxes, trillions of dollars worth, that the US Government spends on services and boondoggles that boggle the mind, and then come back for more. And YOU HAVE NO CHOICE.

Combine the US Government and the Unions, and you have just created toxic sewage worse than anything coming out of private industry.

SEB, keep up the good work. Ignore these simpletons. And kudos to you for asking for feedback.
 
Well, I met Seb at the Supershoot last year. Nice fellow. I wouldn't hesitate to send money to the bank account of his choosing, were I wanting one of his rests... Maybe he'll use some of it to buy his lively wife a heavy coat for the next time he drags her to Sunny Ohier...

Heck, the things are pretty, and he's making an effort to make sure that they are darn near perfect...
 
Well, I've been using a SEB for about 2 years. The only complaint I've had is the lack of smoothness in the joystick at times, but I've become used to it and I don't think it hindered my shooting. Anyhow, the other day I made a counterweight of about a pound and put it to use this weekend. What a difference, smooth as glass now...
 
We have a counterweight...

on the SEB rest in the Chalet (our deer hunting house, see PS, Feb. 09). Our gun weighs 43 lbs. and the rest works easily and smoothly, even with the heavy rifle.

Dick
 
Thanks you all, gentlemen!

For your kind support & inputs.
For you that have the (new) seb ammo holder sets & rear bags....any inputs/improvements I can do for them, please?
seb.:)
 
Seb,
I just bought a used Seb and it has a small amount of play in one of the brgs. What is the bearings' dimensions or part number or other info so I can try and find aircraft quality bearings here in the USA.

I also removed the retainer rings off the rubber boots on the joystick shaft. I left the boots in place to help keep dirt out of the bearings. I also put some silicone grease on the area of the rubber boot that bears on the rest body. I think the joystick movement is smoother without the retainers.

Thanks
Ray
 
Ray,
Thanks you for your info, and for choosing the seb rest for your shooting needs.

Okay.....let me try to explain here:

There are several things that could make slop/lash....i.e. on the bearings, or the rest movement, in the seb rests :
1. The conjuction between the inner ball and the housing of the bearing.
Most of the bearings I use still have some slop in them, from the factory. They are also not very uniform in dimensions. It's a pity that I (still) could not find ones that are tight enough, overhere in Indonesia. That is why, instead of just press fitted, I also punch/prick the bearings, right between the brass liner and the outter housing of the bearing (this make the bearing tighter & feel smoother in joystick operation). Even the bearings are press fitted very tight into the coaxial housing (and one into the horizontal "sliding plate"), the bearing still a bit loose...i.e still not enough for the task/purpose.
On my newer production rests, I add "jam screws" at 6 o'clock position - so you can tighten the bearing with this jam screw).
You can re-punch the bearings, if you wish to. It would make the bearing(s) tight again / have no slob.

The bearings I use on my rests are in metric, ID of 8mm, OD of 22mm, 9mm thick, with brass liner bearings. Any brands would be okay, I think...maybe you can even find better ones in your area...
Note: I do not use "steel on steel" bearings, although they can be made tight due to the "split?" housing, but the operation was not as smooth as the brass liner bearings. I have tried "PTFE liner bearings" before, but the result was not good also (still a bit rough in joystick operation).
I got info from a shooter in Australia, that "teflon bearing" is better. I am still looking for it at this moment.

2. The conjuction between the ID of the "rear" bearing with the center shaft.
It they are loose, there will be slop in the joystick operation.
The center shaft is steel epoxy glued into the "front" bearing (the one in the coaxial body), and just "fit" with the "rear" bearing (the one in the sliding plate, inside the coaxial unit) to allow a bit of inline/axis movement.

3. The conjunction between the center shaft and joystick.
I found that several joysticks were bored "glass hour" before.
There are three holes for the jam screws on the joystick head. You would ONLY need to use 2 (two), in 90 degree. I make three holes in purpose people (which could be right handed or lefties) could choose two of them, at their liking location only. It's not made to be used for 3 screws. (I have seen some people used three jam screws on their seb rests, which is not right IMHO, because it would only "contra(?)" the opposite side screw).


Question: which bearing of yours that has slob?...the one in the coaxial housing, or the one inside?

Do yours have small "jam screw" in the bottom of the coaxial unit?


My advise is, first try to re-punch the bearings as described above, to see/understand how it work.

If you then need to replace the bearing, try to find a better one in your area.

Let me know your finding.

Let me know if there is something I can help from here.

seb.:)


PS: Your right, you may find the joystick movement smoother & has wider MOA (around the corners) by removing the bolts of the retainer oval plate/ring.
 
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seb_same problem

i have one of your first rest that came over here. i have had the same trouble Don has had with the tension being sticky and inconsistent. when i get it where it is real smooth it wont stay up without holding the joy stick. it changes during the day as the temperature changes and i have to keep changing the tension. my carrying handle has also came out two times.
 
Tony,
Thanks you for your inputs.

I would suggest you to try a counter balance weight to fix the problem on your rest. Or send the coaxial unit to me, I would fix it for you for free. (you would only need to pay the return shipping from me to your address).

Option 1: It's cheap & would eliminate 100% of the problem.
If you have access to a lathe (or even just a drill press), you could even make the BWS yourself. One inch of s/s rod, about 4.5" long, attach to the center shaft, the opposite side where you attach your joystick.
If you would like to get one (the seb's BWS), you can order from my US dealer, Ernie Bishop.... ernieemily(at) yahoo.com

Option 2: Send the coaxial unit only (without the rest top, pivot base, joystick etc. Only the coaxial unit/body - to reduce shipping weight/cost) to my address. By EMS, TNT, or any courier you like.
Sebastian Lambang
Jl. Merak Raya 6 Rewwin Waru
Sidoarjo 61256
Indonesia.
tel 62 31 8530240

I would be glad to fix it for you. I will also include a new handle.

Another option is to get "Paul's tension kit" from Ernie.

If there is anything I can do for you, please feel free to let me know.

seb.:)
 
I have been experimenting with my Seb rest after replacing the bearings. I tried a counter weight out near the knob [ I use the reversed joystick movement ]. WOW, what a huge improvement. Now I need to decide how to incorporate the weight into the joystick. I will probably make a new stick out of steel and use a sleeve over the shaft to get up to weight.
 
That's great, Ray!:)

You can use a solid 3/4" rod (or a bit smaller) and make a new (metal) knob to replace the joystick. It should weight around 1 lbs or more.
S/S would look nice.

seb.
 
I was already planning on redoing the attachment of the joystick to the 8mm shaft. I am going to slit the joystick and make a slit clamp to slide over the joystick and clamp it to the shaft.

What I used to experiment with a counterweight was a lead sphere that weighs about 15 oz and I taped this under the joystick a bit in front of the knob. Worked perfectly. I figure a steel shaft will need only a small add-on weight.

Is the original knob screwed onto the joystick ?

Ray
 
It is epoxy glued, not threaded/screwed.
The head of the joystick is solid s/s but the "leverage(?)" is from s/s tube, 1/2".
seb.
 
G'Day Seb,
I bought my rest from Rob Carnell at the Australian 2007 BR Nationals and haven't looked back since.

Marvelous piece of kit. I'd been looking at the Farleys for some time, but your rest was the best value for $$$ packed with great features like being able to swivel the whole top to square it up to the rifle.

The only fault (if you can call it a fault) is it does not go low enough for F class where the firing line mounds, here in Australia, are sloping back leaving the rear bag too low; ideal for sling shooters but a real pain for bag/rest shooters. so you need to have spacer blocks under the rear bag to get on target because the rest top does not go low enough.

However, this is mainly because I chose to use a low profile BR stocked rifle to shoot F class and BR rather than re-stocking it for purely F class use. But this rifle can go from a Australian BR sporter (max 9lb) to a 500m fly (max 17lb)/F class rifle by using a weight system and swapping barrels. Life is sometimes a compromise!

Either way, I love it!:)

Keep up the good work and remember the people dont like your product are grossly outnumbered by those who love it!

Cheerio Ned
 
SEB Dealer USA

This is not a rest porblem, it is an access and support problem.


I have tried to contact SEB USA with info pasted below. No joy.

<<<SEB front bags are available in the USA from Paul Schmid in Ohio, (330) 684-2596, email: coyote [at] zoominternet.net .>>>

The phone is no longer in service. I talked to the phone above and placed an order two weeks ago. I sent an email today no answer. The order was small so the money is not the issue. Does anyone know what is going on.

Jeffrey Tooker
 
Paul passed away. Here is Seb's new USA contact as noted in post 31:

Some "BWS" (balance weight system) will be sent to the US dealer Ernie Bishop on the next shipment (around first week of April) - so you can get it from him.
His email is ernieemily(at)yahoo.com
 
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