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johnson
lets see that haverkamp rifle of yours. Tom is a good man and he does make a good action. Is he producing dual port actions at this time? I knew he was making a few but i wasnt sure he had them in production yet, I need to drive over and see old tommy. I enjoy wandering around his shop. Lots and lots of cool tools!!
I know a lot of folks dont like his short .8xx action tenon, but Gordy says it is plenty strong, so i will believe that it is. One thing i would like to do later this year is build a switch barrel prairie dog rig so maybe ill pick up another one of toms actions. I want to try one of the others i mentioned above first though. good luck with the 30br. I love them!! Lee
 
skeetlee said:
johnson
lets see that haverkamp rifle of yours. Tom is a good man and he does make a good action. Is he producing dual port actions at this time? I knew he was making a few but i wasnt sure he had them in production yet, I need to drive over and see old tommy. I enjoy wandering around his shop. Lots and lots of cool tools!!
I know a lot of folks dont like his short .8xx action tenon, but Gordy says it is plenty strong, so i will believe that it is. One thing i would like to do later this year is build a switch barrel prairie dog rig so maybe ill pick up another one of toms actions. I want to try one of the others i mentioned above first though. good luck with the 30br. I love them!! Lee
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Lee can you please say "Hi" to Tommy from me and when you shake his hand next can you please twist it up behind his back until he promises to make his action in left hand;);).......peferably left bolt right port left eject.........Ian.
 
Vern, the reason that many imperfections in actions never are noticed is shooters have no means of checking things. Many do not even know what to look for.

Example. Take a good look at the primer strike on a fired case. Is it in the middle?? It should be. If it is not, sooner or later you will have to ask yourself, "why isn't it'.

Take a good look at the bolt face. Any discoloration, imprint, or anything else that is the product of the cases firing should have a nice even imprint. If it does not, ask yourself why.

When you screw on a barrel, it should feel nice and crisp as it seats against the shoulder by hand, if you apply some prussian blue, it should be nice and even. If it has that mushy feel, or the blue is not even, ask yourself why.

Take the firing pin assy apart and reassemble it without the spring. Does the firing pin move back and forth with no bind. Place the bolt in the rifle in the firing position. Does it still move back and forth with no bind.

If any of the above conditions exist, you can just ignore them, or actually take the time to check things out. Of course, it helps if you have the facilities, and means, to do this. If you do not, your Gunsmith should have.

Why do you think that several really good Gunsmiths are making a pretty good living fixing things that most have no idea is even wrong?? Because they know what to look for, know how to check it, and most important, know how to fix it.

We are lulled into the complacency that the CAD-CAM revolution turned everybody into a master Craftsman. Well, we get parts on a regular basis that in years past were done "the old fashion way', and are now the product of high production CAD-CAM proccesses.

Trust me, we have learned to double check everything.

I can say this. I now have two Diamondbacks. I have checked each, and as far as all features of the actions being square and truly straight, I can find no faults. I can not say this for others..............jackie
 
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jackie schmidt said:
Vern, the reason that many imperfections in actions never are noticed is shooters have no means of checking things. Many do not even know what to look for.

Example. Take a good look at the primer strike on a fired case. Is it in the middle?? It should be. If it is not, sooner or later you will have to ask yoyurself, "why isn't it'.

Take a good look at the bolt face. Any discoloration, imprint, or anything else that is the product of the cases firing should have a nice even imprint. If it does not, ask yourself why.

When you screw on a barrel, it should feel nice and crisp as it seats against the shoulder by hand, if you apply some prussian blue, it should be nice and even. If it has that mushy feel, or the blue is not even, ask yourself why.

Take the firing pin assy apart and reassemble it without the spring. Does the firing pin move back and forth with no bind. Place the bolt in the rifle in the firing position. Does it still move back and forth with no bind.

If any of the above conditions exist, you can just ignore them, or actually take the time to check things out. Of course, it helps if you have the facilities, and means, to do this. If you do not, your Gunsmith should have.

Why do you think that several really good Gunsmiths are making a pretty good living fixing things that most have no idea is even wrong. Because they know what to look for, know how to check it, and most important, know how to fix it.

We are lulled into the complacency that the CAD-CAM revolution turned everybody into a master Craftsman. Well, we get parts on a regular basis that in years past were done "the old fashion way', and are now the product of high production CAD-CAM proccesses.

Trust me, we have learned to double check everything.

I can say this. I now have two Diamondbacks. I have checked each, and as far as all features of the actions being square and truly straight, I can find no faults. I can not say this for others..............jackie
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This post of Jackies should get the Gold Star for the month!!!
 
Thank you very much Jackie.
And to my slight relief I am also shooting a Diamondback so that makes me feel better.
Though I will try to check out the things you mentioned just to learn a little.
 
Glenn, I really do not think anybody knows how these small things affect the Rifles agging capability, so everybody strives to eliminate as many as possible.

One of the best definitions of what we do, (I might have made it up myself), is we try to eliminate any factor that will keep a bullet from taking the exact same path as the one before.
There are only a few things that will cause a bullet to do this, and about a trillion that will cause it not too..........jackie
 
By The Power of Yog Sloth I cast Thee Out!

Glen, You are right to be paranoid. Despite what every one in this thread has stated they ignore the one overwhelming contributor to bad accuracy in a rifle. I am speaking of course about evil spirits. Call it demonic possession, bad ju ju, satanic power, depraved essence, perverse vileness or whatever; an action that has been cursed will not shoot. You can tinker, straighten and hold tolerances to an angstrom but if the action is infused with dark forces all your efforts are doomed to bitter failure. If you own such a rifle or if you are not shooting well here is the cure. Place the rifle in the bath tub and surround it with chicken bones. Remove all your clothing. Don a wig with spiked hair and adorned with peacock feathers. Stand on the edge of the tub with your arms outstretched each holding a lighted road flare. Scream something, anything, in Latin and urinate on the rifle. Let me know how it turns out. Better yet have your wife take a picture and post it on the forum. Tim
 
Tim,
Have you been apprenticing under Libby? come to think of it, his rifles do smell a little "different". It must be the "solvent".;)
 
I have owned a number of different Cuasom Action brands over the past dozen years and all of them, except for one, have shot or shoot great. The one that didn't shoot up to my expectation may have had a stock issue, I don't know but I sold it to a fellow who was using it for a different segment of our sport and it has worked well for him.

I currently have a BAT, a Borden and Kodiak. All three of them work fine. I must say the Borden in a very RED Borden stock is the prettiest and best functioning rifle I have owned to date. I even shoot it pretty well sometimes. I like it well enough to not be looking for anything else except for an LV something or rather sometime in the future. And/or a different = another RF rifle down the road, perhaps.
 
Glenn Chism said:
OK.. If nobody has an answer,then my state of paranoia is significantly reduced. I trust my new action.
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Glenn,
I was under the impression that you carried an extra box of Paranoia with you to all the shoots. :)

P.S.
I think Libby already has the costume that Dr. Tim was talking about. Maybe he could loan it to you. :)

Best,
Dan Batko

"Where are we going and why am I in this basket?"
 
Glen I can take care of that exorcism for you. Just bring the suspect gun down here with a new and clean barrel.
It shouldnt take too awful long. I should be through with the end of the season.
I would only charge you 8lbs of powder 1k of barts and a brick of federals.
I should be through with it in oh say november.
 
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