Do you really want new guy's here?

Steve,

Standard answer is to try all the advice given to see what works for you. Keep what works throw the rest out. Everybody does things a little different. Take free recoil for instance, lots of guys shoot that way and do well. My way of thinking, how can you call that shooting if you ain't even touching the rifle? Keep in mind that if you admit that it works.....end of debate.:mad: Seems some argue for the sake of arguement.

New guys always welcome. Lots of good advice available here. Sometimes you just got to sort it out. Hip boots not required, but highly reccomended.

Ken Henderson
 
68driftr said:
A picture of my Suhl.

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Where are the curb feelers and a target?:D jack chastain
 
Welcome aboard

Steve:
From the looks of that Suhl, I wouldn't be afraid to jump right in. Get you a good set of wind flags, lots of test lots and Practice, Practice, Practice. Dan Killough is very good to work with when testing Eley. Charles Scott, handle the Lapua. It might seem like youare buying a new rifle, each time you buy a case of ammo, but look at the fun you will be having. If you can't get enough shooting in up north, you are welcome to come to Texas and let us enjoy your company.

Fred Jamison
 
Steve,
If you are interested in friendly shooting the Pine Ridge rifle club shoots in Steamboat Rock twice a month in the summer. We shoot more traditional (single-shot, schuetzen, or at least nonbolt) rifles, but maybe you have one handy. You will find us a friendly bunch.

Shoot me a line at brentd@iastate.edu if you want.

Brent

PS. I agree that this website is quite unfriendly. But it does have some good info here and there, or at least it did until they ran a few of the best folks off. And, as a group. they ain't interested in hearing from you if you are not a many-time champion specifically at benchrest .22.
 
Brent,
I agree, almost 100 %, there is some good info here at times, but it's very easy to see that if you don't agree with, or your are not one of, the top guns here it seems that you are not then part of the "group", and that's when some of the good guys leave.

BUT,
It seems to be about the same with the Schuetzen guys, hell, some of the ASSRA officials banned or ran off some of the top, top, guys in the shooting game, and also ran off or banned some of the top engravers and gunsmiths that were doing work for them at no cost just because they did not agree with some of the officials bad attitudes, and they also got very upset when a new member asked some questions about the ASSRA shooting records.

From what I've seen on there site all the guy asked for in a nice way was how he could get copies of the Schuetzen shooting records and they banned him from the site, seems like maybe they had something to hide ?.

I guess they can do what they want as it's there site, but when an official can tell a member in so many 4 letter words to shut the ---- up there actions as an official is not good for the shooting sports. Yet the official of course is still there and the member is gone. What is it with some of the ASSRA officials or any officials for the matter, that think there gods and the members arn't good for anything but there dues ?.
SS
 
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SS. I will say NOTHING to defend the ASSRA. Indeed, I agree with you completely in that regard. I find the organization reprehensible. I was only referring to our own local group of guys - we are not ASSRA affiliated as a club. We are about as friendly as any group of guys with guns can be. I suspect that may be true of these folks too - WHEN they are at the range. But not on this website.

I have seen good stuff here, mostly but not exclusively from Calfee, but they drummed him out. But I did learn a lot while he was here. I think there is a lot of this that can be applied to Schuetzen rifles as well, so I keep fishing. However, when I tried to return the favor once or twice with the offer of some ideas that pertain to any sort of shooting, I got nicely mugged - a number of times.

Brent
PS I was one of those guys the ASSRA "ran off". :)
 
If I have ever offended anyone on this forum, please accept my apology. As a moderator, I have tried to stop personal attacks from time to time. We lean toward freedom of speech and sometimes things get out of hand.

As far as ASSRA, I had not heard of them until now, so don't hold that against us at this site.

If you don't find what you need on this site, there is another site starting up that you might like also.

http://www.rimfireaccuracy.com/

Concho Bill
 
What Fred Jamison said

best advice I have seen in a while. I also like the idea of using a wind indicator that shows one the wind's velocity readily.
 
68Drifter
Steve you will learn more by shooting at a few matches than by reading every post on any gun forum.When you attend matches you will make mistakes that will cost you the win.At the next match you will eliminate the mistakes of your previous match/matches until you are winning.
Consistency is what wins matches and removing all of the little mistakes improves your consistency.

Waterboy

They ran off one of the best gunsmiths in the world here recently so don't take offense to much of what you read.
 
"They ran off one of the best gunsmiths in the world here recently so don't take offense to much of what you read"

Lynn,
Can you tell us who "they" are and why were "they" allowed to run off one of the best ?. Are "they" still allowed on this site, and if so why, It may be a help If we know who to avoid.
SS
 
The forum owner and moderators. But for good reasons. Lynn won't specify because he has only heard one side.

John M. Carper
 
Well I checked out the IR50/50 schedule and I have till may to get ready, Wish me luck! I am going into this with the mindset to just learn this year and meet fellow shooter's, On a side note how do you decode the Lapua lots and speed's?


Thank's Steve
 
BrentD said:
SS. I will say NOTHING to defend the ASSRA. Indeed, I agree with you completely in that regard. I find the organization reprehensible. I was only referring to our own local group of guys - we are not ASSRA affiliated as a club. We are about as friendly as any group of guys with guns can be. I suspect that may be true of these folks too - WHEN they are at the range. But not on this website.

I have seen good stuff here, mostly but not exclusively from Calfee, but they drummed him out. But I did learn a lot while he was here. I think there is a lot of this that can be applied to Schuetzen rifles as well, so I keep fishing. However, when I tried to return the favor once or twice with the offer of some ideas that pertain to any sort of shooting, I got nicely mugged - a number of times.

Brent
PS I was one of those guys the ASSRA "ran off". :)
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Well that's actually not correct Brent, what happened is first you got pretty preachy, followed almost immediatly [this seems to be a pattern] by the "I'm smarter than you because I'M A COLLEGE PROF post that pretty much detererioated to blather, centering on the fact that while you don't shoot BR you can pretty much guarantee how to do it. As a point of order BC got banned by no "they" but by the single gentleman that owns the place, pretty much after exibiting the patience of Moses...more than once
 
I love it Tim, the only way anyone knew I was a prof was because they looked me up.

You on the other hand are an official site policeman and a good part of the reason this place has so much hostility.

You also never contribute anything useful to anyone.

Brent
 
I think the OP is proving his point. This thread is starting to get a bit Nasty. Calm discussion and sticking to the original posted thread is a plus. From 1 Newbie to another
 
Prophecy?

68driftr said:
I like this site, but it just seems to combative to ask a question out of the box, Most threads contain good info but you have to wade thru all of the bashing and argument's to find it, I know this is where the best hang out, and to learn you need to learn from the best, I just kinda wish the professionalism of the sport would be more prevalent here, you have to admit here lately a new guy looking in would not feel very comfortable here. Just my opinion.


Steve
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Sadly, I think Steve had it correct in a lot of ways.

Steve, ALL new guys are welcome here. I don't think the folks that fulfill your prophecy intend it to go like this, but all too often it does. If you wade through the attitudes, you will find good info. And I do not think folks want to be like this, it just happens. But if you stay around, you will get the info, by someone posting, or people will take it upon themselves to PM or email you. You will get the help you need. At least I have. I have a lot to learn, but I am working on it.

Frankly, the best help I have recieved generally came through the PM's either directly, or sent through someone else. There are folks who hate the squabbling, but like to help folks. And they do. And it is greatly appreciated.

If you notice, many bits of wisdom will get offered, and when someone attacks the person who gave the wisdom, they will simply not post about it further. I suppose the old statement about a word to the wise being sufficient applies here.

Greg
 
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