Do you really want new guy's here?

Sadly, I think Steve had it correct in a lot of ways.

Steve, ALL new guys are welcome here. I don't think the folks that fulfill your prophecy intend it to go like this, but all too often it does. If you wade through the attitudes, you will find good info. And I do not think folks want to be like this, it just happens. But if you stay around, you will get the info, by someone posting, or people will take it upon themselves to PM or email you. You will get the help you need. At least I have. I have a lot to learn, but I am working on it.

Frankly, the best help I have recieved generally came through the PM's either directly, or sent through someone else. There are folks who hate the squabbling, but like to help folks. And they do. And it is greatly appreciated.

If you notice, many bits of wisdom will get offered, and when someone attacks the person who gave the wisdom, they will simply not post about it further. I suppose the old statement about a word to the wise being sufficient applies here.

Greg

I agree , that is why I don't post much anymore on this site .
It's not the ordinary shooters , it's all the sponsors and sales people and gun dealers posing as normal shooters . If you say anything that is going to cost them business , then they gang up on you. You can see the drop in posts and replies on the site over the last few years.
It's a real shame but the managment of this site promote and support some of the most rude and abusive members if they are sponsors . So you reap what you sow.
This is the most unfriendly firearms site I have found to date .
The inclusion of a Competition only forum is a good idea it may improve the situation. Maybe things have changed a bit since I was last here I hope so.
 
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Come on guys. It is just winter. Spring will be here soon.

A hibernating bear in winter would be grumpy too.


Concho Bill
 
I've posted here a few times to ask questions, and by and large, got advice and answers that helped me greatly. I've never shot a live match, only some of the fun shoots and internet "postal" matches, and thoroughly enjoyed them (except for posting my scores). I live about 25 miles from "Dietzville" but just have never made it there for a match, either to shoot or to observe.

Having said all of that, I still read most of the threads here, and still glean bits of wisdom just about every time I read. But, once I see a thread heading for the toilet, I just stay away from it. It is a phenomenon I've seen on just about every public site--keyboard anonymity makes/lets folks say things they'd never say to someone's face without risking getting punched in the nose.
 
you live 25 miles from dietzville and never been there ????
for shame.....:eek:
man ya gotta go shoot with Fred J, he bites but they pulled his fangs years ago..unlike the big rattlers on the range:D
 
Would be nice

Straightshooter;
If I knew who you were, and that you lived that close, I would have sent you our schedule long time ago. Our webiste id not yet up todate do to a computer problem, but if you'll check out the ARA site, our shooting dates are posted there. Also Boerne Shooting clunb has some dates posted as well. Come on down. My phone number is also listed on the ARA web site, so call me if you have any questions. Hell, I'll let you shoot the first target for FREE.

PS: Email sent.
 
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Hi... I'm CW and I'm a lurker. That being established, I just have to interject here... If THIS is the most unfriendly shooting site you've visited you really need to get out more... Sure, occasionally one of the urination contests spills over on somebody else's boots, but, all in all, these guys are basically ready to answer any and all SERIOUS questions and seem to have the 22lr accuracy market cornered. The few times I've raised my unsuspecting, iron animal shooting head to ask a question, it has been answered with civility... and that's all you can ask coming in from the cold. If you want to participate in their discipline you would be quickly welcomed by most of those posting here. If, like me, you only want to glean knowledge from the folks who have it, then sit back and bask in the glow of their experience. It's the cheap way of learning about rimfires... I'll go back under my rock now....
 
OK,I will add my 2 cents. I love to shoot (.22, high power, shotguns, pistols, just about any thing that goes bang). Having said that, I have found a lot of pistol shooters gravitating to IDPA because it emphasizes production pistols over race guns (read expensive).A lot of folks like to shoot, but draw the line at spending a couple of grand for a single purpose gun. The fun fire idea, with production CZ,Remington's, etc could draw a different crowd. After the see how enjoyable the sport is, and that women can shoot equally with the men,they may get the upgrade craze and spend the extra bucks to compete in full rimfire benchrest competitions. Just my thoughts.

Oldboyshooter
 
Fred--i was under the mistaken impression that your shoots were on Sundays only. Saw from the schedule, that the shoots are Saturdays, so I might just stick my nose in to see what's going on, and thanks for the invite.
 
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we were all new guys once

WERE WE NOT ALL NEW GUYS WHEN WE STARTED. WOULD IT NOT HAVE BEN
GREAT IF WE COULD HAVE STARTED ON FUN FIRE MATCH. MY FIRST MATCH
I WAS INVITED TO I TOOK AN AR-15 WITH .22 RIMFIRE CONVERSION.
TO MY SURPRIST EVERY BODY HAD A BENCHREST RIG. THEY FORGOT TO TELL ME ABOUT ALL THE STUFF NEEDED TO COMPEAT . BOY WHAT A LEARNING CURVE AND LOTS OF $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. YES WE NEED ALL THE NEW BODYS IN OUR GAME. LET THEM COME AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE
AND LET THEM START SLOW rEMBER WE WERE ALL NEW GUYS AT ONE TIME I THINK.. B0ER BOK
 
Newby Perspecitve

I'm a newby and I think this forum is pretty much like the rest of life. You have an opportunity to meet some realy great people and learn some amazing things, but you have to have thick enough skin to deal with some disfunctional behavior.
 
NOBODY can get a bloody nose sitting at the keyboard ..all the rude BS stop's at the matchs it's all lovey dovey :)
websites are good for part's and ammo info THATS ALL if you dont shoot in registered match's YOU will never learn.
the best people/shooters PROVE IT BY BEING THERE.

Agreed, in addition new users (myself included) have to remember that pretty much every forum on the internet is a place for anonymous people to get out their soap box and pretend they know everything, start silly fights, act like petty children, and generally offer nothing useful to conversations that should be positive. There's a great example thread here started by someone that wants to get started and then gets a bunch of negative feedback about ammo being difficult to find and blah blah blah. http://www.benchrest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67464

The disconnection from face to face conversation over the internet is great at removing regular human decency that you generally don't see when you're at a range or in a public setting. The best option is to learn how to recognize these people and ignore them.

But yeah, I'd agree with the OP here - it's difficult to wade through some of these responses in order to get to the good stuff - it actually makes the BR community seem like snobs - which I know isn't true at the range.
 
I'm a newby and I think this forum is pretty much like the rest of life. You have an opportunity to meet some realy great people and learn some amazing things, but you have to have thick enough skin to deal with some dysfunctional behavior.

Well said Eludium,

Some of the best people you will ever have the pleasure to meet are here among others. Advice is plenitiful and cheap, just consider the source. Stick around, you will surely fit right in.

Concho Bill
 
I would like to report that I do believe things are improving on BR central.
I got a terrific helpful respose to a qusetion and not one put down or insult to ruin the thread so I would like to say that I was wrong and BR Central is better than it used to be.
 
I like this site, but it just seems to combative to ask a question out of the box, Most threads contain good info but you have to wade thru all of the bashing and argument's to find it, I know this is where the best hang out, and to learn you need to learn from the best, I just kinda wish the professionalism of the sport would be more prevalent here, you have to admit here lately a new guy looking in would not feel very comfortable here. Just my opinion.


Steve
I agree with you 100%. Jeff
 
i don't agree..

if the LURKERS would start posting and the newbies not start out their first post in the negative, things would be better....cowboy up !
i had to dig spurs outta my arse at first, but life gets better not worse
if ya hang tough)chill:)D
 
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