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Bill, Thanks much for the informative post. I, like many, have had a lot of difficulty with distinguishing the differences with the Leupold models since they started in with all of this "name changing". Vari-X to VX to whatever. This has to be the worst attempt at marketing since "New Coke"...

Do you guys use the purple grade of Locktite on your bases, or do you go one grade stronger? Bill T.

Thanks Fred. I'm glad I asked, my numbers are different. Math gets the better of me sometimes. :confused: Bill T.

Just curious, does anyone know what 140 MOA trigs out to in 1,760 yards? He did mentioned the bullet dropped 115 feet in one mile. Bill T.

You could very well be right. He never mentioned the magnification but I think the Mark IV 16X was the scope he was using. I say that because I noticed he had the scope mounted quite far forward. The distance of the length of the 30 MM portion of the rear tube is only 1.4 inches long. Midway...

So, and correct me if I'm wrong. The Mark IV 8.5-25X isn't that great of a buy anymore. I had heard the same thing about the tubes being thicker, but no longer. Seeing as the VX-III 8.5-25X doesn't come from the factory with a Mil-Dot, it's ability to track is more or less a moot point, as I'm...

I've been keeping my eye open and Cabela's has these that are 55" long. Very nice, but not cheap however. Bill T. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?type=product&cmCat=Related_IPL_220632&id=0044030228591a

My only concern on the Model 12F/TR is the Mickey Mouse wood screw set up to attach the plastic cheekpiece. I haven't attached it yet, as I'm waiting until I get the optics mounted to obtain proper location. Has anyone had any issues with it coming loose? I would think they could have come up...

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=320171 http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=217984&t=22164010 Other than reticle and adjustment knobs, they seem quite equal. Both have large amounts of elevation adjustment, and the same...

I agree with you about the Harris, and it's quality. I have one. I like the Parker Hale design because it's far cleaner looking without all the springs and things hanging out everywhere. Bill T.

Thanks for all the replies. Let me know how it fits when you get it, and if your satisfied overall. Bill T.

That was the number that was sticking in my head as well. Bill T.

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes a case long enough for the 30" barreled Savage 12-F/TR? I have several cases for my 30" barreled Trap Shotguns, but it won't fit in any of them, and certainly won't fit any better when the gun is scoped. For those who shoot a Savage 12-F/TR, what...

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=320171&t=22164010 Is this the model you are speaking of? Bill T.

http://www.hi-luxoptics.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=42 Has anyone used any of these models in F-Class? They would seem to be ideally suited for the purpose at hand. I just wondered if there was a downside to them, and if so what it was? If anyone has any experience...

Thanks, I'll check into them. Bill T.

Bob, exactly which models of the VX-III are you refering to? Bill T.

I would think they would have no where near the MOA adjustment needed. Bill T.

Thanks much John. Bill T.

I fixed it. :D Bill T.