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tiny68

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Will a 1:17 stabilize the 125 Speer TNTs ok? I know many of you wouldn't consider shooting anything but true custom bullets. I have so much to learn about the wind, I don't want to spend +$0.30/bullet yet. Not when the 125 TNTs are less than 0.14 each and my wind reading capabilities doesn't exceed their performance yet. I am shooting them in a 1:16 fine, but considering a new barrel for different action.

Thanks, tiny
 
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Where are you located, Tiny. Shooting matches will teach you much about the flags. Look at the scores, see who's shooting well and speak with them.
 
Southeastern Oklahoma

The local BR ranges I know of are Denton, TX, and Luther, OK. Denton is 2 hours away and only shoots on Sundays, which I can't usually make due to church commitments. Luther is 3 hours away. Been to a match this spring at Luther to watch and ask questions. Learned a little. Need to learn much more. Need a set of flags. Currently using orange tape on a dowl rod. Not the most sensitive things in the world. Got a couple of contacts but don't want to drown them with questions.

tiny
 
Tiny

I have shot them in my 30PPC with it's 1-17, and they shot suprisingly well. Probably .300 to .350 agg capability. certainly not upthere with BIB's, Cheeks, Knights, or any of theother fine Custom Bullets.

It is no big secret that one of the "minor" drawbacks to shooting a 30 cal is the bullets are pretty pricy.

I suppose you can practice with bullets that are not up to Benchrest Standards, as long as you know their capabilities. But it won't be long untill you will be willing to spend the extra for the best. Good Luck.........jackie
 
tiny68,

The Speer 125 TNT's will stabilize fine in barrels twisted 1:17. The Speers are as fine a production bullet as you'll find. But.....(there's always a "butt", right?) ;).......

At the risk of drawing some fire :eek:, I'm going to suggest that you take a hard look at the bullet situation you proposed. The absolute last thing you need to worry about when learning this game is whether the bullets you're shooting are giving you the best accuracy your rig is capable of. You simply won't know if that shot that didn't go where it should have was the result of a missed condition, a tune issue, or a less than perfect bullet.

Look at the money spent on quality BR bullets as money invested in shortening your learning curve. And you'll use up less powder, buy fewer primers and spend less on fuel going back and forth to the range...not to mention your time and wear and tear on your barrel.

High quality 'ham and eggs' bullets that let you wring the most out of your rig...while at the same time helping you learn the basics...are the best buy in BR.

Nomex on and tinfoil hat properly buckled. :eek: :D
 
Tiny,
I am also new to this game, and have learned that there really is no substitute for shooting what you would in a match in practice.
My dad has a rifle put together by a top notch smith and it will put the bullet where the crosshairs rest when the conditions are right. As far as trying a "lesser" brand, in order to learn the true effect of the wind you need to know that your rig is putting those bullets where you place them. A bullet that is not capable of placing all five into one hole is going to lie to you when the group opens up to .3...you may have read the conditions right, but the bullet went out of the group because it wasn't capable of going in. Yet you walk away thinking that you missed a condition or your scope is off, or your bag handling skills are off.

You will never know what you or your rig are capable of until you get the best of everything. Leave nothing to chance!!!

all this, or what Mr. Nyhus said.


Mike
 
tiny68 said:
Will a 1:17 stabilize the 125 Speer TNTs ok?
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Absolutely and they are pretty darn good bullets all things considered. I have had some times when I could not get my custom bullets to shoot as well as TNT's. Of course at that point I knew I did not have the customs tuned quite right.
 
Tiny where are you located. I'm one of the officers of the Luther club and we need for to come shoot with us. Denton is a blast. We have an awful lot of fun down there.
Mike
 
But........

I have read the post that state you need several hundred of a bullet to tune and figure out if it shoots the best in your rig. My problem is I don't know where to start with the 1:16 twist. BIB 118s? The 125 Bergers I got cost as much as true customs. I haven't found a way to get a 100 of the customs. Most web sites state in quantities of 1000s. I am not willing to invest in several 1000 at $300 plus a pop to figure out they don't shot that good.

Tiny
 
Most custom makers

Will send a Newbie a hundred or two to test with, from my experience. I won't get into my usual tirade about Custon vs machine made but if you want to go back in the archives you can find them, I am sure. If you look at the results of the Score shoots and count the 30's vs the rest, you can see why everyone seems to be running down the road in the same direction.

I have been a 30 Cal shooter from my very beginning in BR. Me and my traveling companions have been into the 30 BR since 2000 or so. There is a compelling reason for it. I suspect you may be able to do OK practicing with TNT's, they are usually pretty darn good shooters. I have won a lot of wood behind them over the years.
 
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I have had good results with the TnT in a .308, so I tried them in my .30BR and had the same results as the other posters here. Groups were ok with a wild flyer once in a while that left you scratching your head. In my opinion, when you shoot a custom bullet, in a tuned rifle, the only flyers you will have are when a condition switches.
A flyer for no reason makes you question an otherwise sound platform, and your learning curve will be much longer. Short answer is to spend the money on good bullets. I use Ron Cheeks 118's, and he sells them in 150, 200, or 1000 count quantities. He is also in Texas so you can probably get them quick. Good Luck:D
 
Tim,

I use Ron Cheeks 118's, and he sells them in 150, 200, or 1000 count quantities. He is also in Texas so you can probably get them quick. Bindy

Yep, Ronnie will have ya bullets typically inside of 2-2 1/2 weeks. Got my 200 real quick... Mr Cheek is a good man and will deliver TOP quality custom bullets. I'd say go with the 7 ogive 118gr......... Hole drilling fer sure!

I'll send ya some pics of my flags both for Denton and Luther... Geesh, talk about extremes!!! Extra TALL and extra SMALL...:D Cheap and easy to build. Oh also they WORK...

cale
 
Cale you should have been out at Luther this AM. Conditions were crappy, but the poor old 30 shot fine. Know I'm not going to tell what the 6 did. I will just show up with in Sept.:D:D:D
 
mike southard said:
Tiny where are you located.
Mike
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Sorry I missed this Mike. I am in Durant, OK. I don't even have a local range that is accessible all the time.

Something I never thought about till now. My friend's range I shoot at has about 8-10 foot of drop at 100 yds. Things are pretty level at 200 and 300. What kind of problems might I introduce my praticing at 100 yds with the drop? I can't even keep the front rest level and have my rear bag high enough without a 1.5" board. Not idea I know. If I remember right, doesn't Luther have about a 10 ft rise for the 200 yd line?

tiny
 
tiny68 said:
Something I never thought about till now. My friend's range I shoot at has about 8-10 foot of drop at 100 yds. Things are pretty level at 200 and 300. What kind of problems might I introduce my praticing at 100 yds with the drop? I can't even keep the front rest level and have my rear bag high enough without a 1.5" board. Not idea I know. If I remember right, doesn't Luther have about a 10 ft rise for the 200 yd line?

tiny
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That is not all that unusual, on the other hand when you go to another range where you are not shooting down hill your zero will change slightly.
 
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