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Is Wilbur still in Texas? Did he like it so much that he stayed? What about his comentary ?
 
Come to Texas and it quickly becomes all about food. We may never know what became of the original purpose of the trip. It is the natural order of things here in Texas. Food comes first. Food is basically meat with a few trimmings for decoration.

Wilbur- With all due respect, any preparation of meat that involves an oven and the stewing of meat in a sauce cannot be called bar-b-que. Granted what y'all come up with in the Carolinas is tender and sometimes even tasty. It just shouldn't be called bar-b-que just because you use a sauce by that name to create your stew. I'm sure it is just an oversight on your part caused by the misfortune of a misguided upbringing. You seem to have turned out well in all other respects. All due respect.
 
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Barbecue is made from pork! Any other meat can be quiet tasty but it ain't barbecue! And barbecue is not a verb! Grill, roast, bake, fry, etc. are verbs. Barbecue is a noun!
 
Not quite so.....

Here is the definition:

Barbecue or barbeque [1] (abbreviated BBQ, Bar-B-Q or Bar-B-Que or diminuted, chiefly in Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom to barbie, and braai in South Africa) is a method and apparatus for cooking food, often meat, with the heat and hot gases of a fire, smoking wood, or hot coals of charcoal and may include application of a marinade, spice rub, or basting sauce to the meat. The term as a noun can refer to foods cooked by this method, to the cooker itself, or to a party that includes such food. The term is also used as a verb for the act of cooking food in this manner. Barbecue is usually cooked in an outdoor environment heated by the smoke of wood or charcoal, or with propane and similar gases. Restaurant barbecue may be cooked in large brick or metal ovens specially designed for that purpose.

Barbecue has numerous regional variations in many parts of the world. Notably, in the United States, practitioners consider barbecue to include only relatively indirect methods of cooking, with the more direct high-heat methods to be called grilling. In other countries, notably Australia and many parts of Europe, barbecue is either fried or grilled, and generally barbecue appliances do not have a lid.

Hovis
 
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some might take exception with this definition. How do definitions become sanctioned anyway? Do people get to vote on them? Is there a body of elected or appointed officials who are authorized to accept the definition as "The Word", so to speak? Just wondering.
 
Just a couple thoughts about barbeque and mexican food. I think I have the BBQ thing right. The guy that invented KC Masterpiece BBQ sauce was from Kansas City. It got so popular in that area he sold out to one of the big food companies. Then he and a friend made a long round about trip, covering most of the USA trying the BBQ in many different places. He/They ended up writing a book about their trip. What they basically found was that different areas of the country had different ways of doing their BBQ, so there is basically no "best BBQ", only different ways of doing it. As to Mexican food, what we get here in the Tex/Okla area is best known as Texmex. Depending on the resturant, I generally like it. But in my opinion the best Mexican food is found in New Mexico. That is where the famous Hatch chili pepper is grown. In fact there is a town named Hatch, New Mexico. But then I bet you guys from New Mexico already knew that. Now where the heck is Wilbur............
Donald
 
I generally state my opinion and then let it go when others disagree, allowing them the freedom to make their own decision.

Bar-b-que is a spiritual issue and I would be morally negligent to not be a soldier on this issue. Different regions do indeed prepare their bar-b-que differently; however, meat boiled in bar-b-que sauce is not bar-b-que and our children should not be mislead into believing that it is.

It is our duty as men to get this right and to forever protect our offspring from the loose moral fiber that could call stew by the sacred name of bar-b-que.

My tolerance of other cultures stops on this issue.
 
Mexican Food

There is no comparison to Mexican Food and Tex-Mex. Many of the so call Mexican dishes, were developed were first served in Texas, not Mexico. As for B-B-Q, It Texas Brisket hands down. Nothing like absorbing a case of beer while watch the smoke rise from the pit for 18 hours.
 
Hungi

For real outdoor food you guys need to experience a real Maori(Kiwi) hungi best food ever cooked.
 
Wilbur,

Looks like you're off the hook. Mention a dead animal & they lose all interest in real subjects like tuners.
 
To all you "food first" guys !

While I have had problems of my own on another thread ,your "southwestern cuisine" comments have not gone unnoticed. We all (well,most of us anyway)appreciate the humor.
joel
 
Pete Wass said:
some might take exception with this definition. How do definitions become sanctioned anyway? Do people get to vote on them? Is there a body of elected or appointed officials who are authorized to accept the definition as "The Word", so to speak? Just wondering.
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Pete,

I hope nobody from congress reads this thread. They'll have an investigation as to how everything gets named. Call all kinds of witnesses to make sure no one was discriminated against, make sure big business wasn't involved in colusion, and give naming rights to some yet to be anounced group. Then it will all fall apart because nobdy wants to work with the other guy. All the time, they aren't doing what we pay them to do. On the other hand, we're probably better off when they don't do anything.:rolleyes:

Ken
 
Everyone in this country is spoiled with extravagant items such as head cheese and brisket. You haven't lived until you've spent a little time in the third world and get to where you enjoy being served chicken chitlins with a side of dried guppies. It's amazing what different areas call good food.

I used to know a couple of guys at work who had a map on their office wall of the Tennessee Valley Region. I thought it was some kind of project they were working on but when I asked I found out that all the multicolored pins were barbeque places throughout the region they had tried and rated. Now that's a serious barbeque lover. Barbeque is made from pork lathered in secret sauce and smoked in a pit for God knows how long and consumed covered with fine hot sauce. It's a southern thing.
 
Bubba-Q

I'm with Jackie on this one.We are getting conjecture and theory on Barbecue but its coming from benchrest shooters who don't know anything at all about being a TRUE CHEF.I won't be paying attention to any responses until a real Chef posts.
Lynn
 
Tango Two - -

I find it interesting that we simply accept definitions of words in dictionaries as a matter of course and fact without considering who make the decision as to what the definition is. Ever wonder why we do that? :D
 
Lynn said:
I'm with Jackie on this one.We are getting conjecture and theory on Barbecue but its coming from benchrest shooters who don't know anything at all about being a TRUE CHEF.I won't be paying attention to any responses until a real Chef posts.
Lynn
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I'm easily as much a chef as a benchrest shooter. In fact, they wouldn't dare put me on "Iron Chef" and have the secret ingredient be collard greens.
 
Fred J said:
There is no comparison to Mexican Food and Tex-Mex. Many of the so call Mexican dishes, were developed were first served in Texas, not Mexico. As for B-B-Q, It Texas Brisket hands down. Nothing like absorbing a case of beer while watch the smoke rise from the pit for 18 hours.
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Fred has it right on. There is nothing like Tex-Mex food. It is not mild and it is not for the weak and it is not meant to be a strict diet. Food in the interior of Mexico is rather bland by comparison.

Bar-B-Q out here may be a chicken but usually beef. Pulled pork is something that I had never tasted for the first 1/2 century of my life. I had to be told that it was Bar-B-Q. I was also told by my Tennessee friend that they don't call it Bar-B-Q unless it had a pig in it. Can you imagine the story I told my West Texas friends when I got home?

I am glad that you made it to the real Texas, Wilbur. Please come back sometime.

Some of you may find it hard to believe, but when we travel and come home to Texas, some of us can't get back to normal without our fix of Tex-Mex.
 
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