Scope compairison

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J. Pendergraft said:
What some may not realize is we benchrest shooters are a very small % of the scope market. Varmint shooters, hunters and informal recreational shooters significantly out number us. A few years ago the maker of the Bald Eagle front rest mentioned how he sold much more product to varmint shooters than benchrest and this was during the time when the Bald Eagle was one of the more popular rests in use for benchrest. Our numbers are just not great enough to warrant much R&D and new products that benefit only benchrest shooters.
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Could only benefit from the same kind of scopes we are looking for. It is impossible to have ammo that is too good or scopes that are too precice.
 
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Al

I agree with you 100%. A scope with no moving internals would be perfect for benchrest. The cost of freezing the scope would be eliminated. The original cost of the scope could be $100-$200 less because of simplicity. The other huge advantage would be light gathering. A scope with a 1" tube would gather light better than a 30mm tube, because there would be no undersize lenses required for the erector tube. For this guy a used Leupold is what I would recommend.

Michael
 
82boy said:
I been looking to buy a new Target scope under 600. I have brought my choices down to two. The Weaver T36 and the Sightron bix sky 36x44. Both with a fine cross hair. What do you like better? Is the sightron worth the extra dough? Thanks guys
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I've used both the Weaver 36 and the Sightron big sky 36. The Weaver 36 is on my wife's riffle and I just removed the Sightron from mine and it's for sale if you are interested. I paid $523.00 for it this spring ,and used it in 2 matches. I shot a 249 8x the first match at 200 yds. a 250 17x second match at 100 yds.The Sightron has better clairity than the Weaver , the adjustments are very precise , it has no scratches or dings of any kind. I needed a more powerful scope so I just bought a 45 x Lepold 30mm tube.
If you are interested in my Sightron it's yours for $ 485.00 shipped to your door. More if you want it insured. It goes on e-bay in 1 week ,soon as I get back from camping trip. The scope is mat black.
 
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yat3b35 said:
I've used both the Weaver 36 and the Sightron big sky 36. The Weaver 36 is on my wife's riffle and I just removed the Sightron from mine and it's for sale if you are interested. I paid $523.00 for it this spring ,and used it in 2 matches. I shot a 249 8x the first match at 200 yds. a 250 17x second match at 100 yds.The Sightron has better clairity than the Weaver , the adjustments are very precise , it has no scratches or dings of any kind. I needed a more powerful scope so I just bought a 45 x Lepold 30mm tube.
If you are interested in my Sightron it's yours for $ 485.00 shipped to your door. More if you want it insured. It goes on e-bay in 1 week ,soon as I get back from camping trip. The scope is mat black.
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Thanks for the offer but I will have to pass.
 
mikesshop said:
The shooter said he is working on a pretty specific budget. He is now getting advice to purchase scopes from a $450.00 Weaver to a $2000.00 March.
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I must agree we have really deviated a long way from the original question.

Between Sightron and Weaver my preference would be Weaver.

Dick
 
Dick Grosbier said:
I must agree we have really deviated a long way from the original question.

Between Sightron and Weaver my preference would be Weaver.

Dick
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Thank you that is what I am wanting to know, It looks like I will be going with the weaver,I have one lined up new at a good deal.
 
Weaver and Sightron are pretty much the same when it comes to attributes; except for one huge difference, repair shop. In plain English, Weaver(Meade) sucks, Sightron is as good as Leupold's. This is based on personal experience with all three. Thanks, douglas.
 
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Last year I had the same dilemma that you had.
At that time,Meade owned Weaver and several people told that their warranty service was slow and expensive.
Several other people told me that Sightron's Lifetime guaranty was excellent.
I got the Sightro Big Sky from the OpticZone for $489 - total cost.
I see that they now list at $519,but the way that the US dollar has gone in the tank,it's no wonder.
If you look around on the internet,you may find either scope a lot cheaper than you expected.
I'm happy with the Sightron.It's brighter than some Weaver's I've used.I do think that they could supply screw-in scope caps,though.
Heck,I see some old Japanese Tasco's selling for $4-500 on eBay.
 
Pete Wass: Confused "lurker" here with a question.
In your "best solution" scenario, with "the scope adjusted at the rear mount - period", does your scenario then need a front mount that wobbles or flexes to keep the scope tube from bending when elevation and windage are adjusted at the rear?
In other words would the wobbley or swivelly front mount then come with built in slack or tolerances that would allow for unwanted movement of the bullets point of impact?
Could you explain to me how your system of "rear mount only" adjustment works - where's the external pivot point?
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VarmintGuy
 
Varmint guy in answer to your quiry, front mount has 3 points of contact 2 are fixed 3 is spring loaded so that when adj. are made things can move without stressing the tube. Not a new design Unertl, Lyman , Fecker, Remington, Bausch&Lomb to name a bunch all had scopes with this arrangement mount wise. The thing that would be different now is containing the mount to within the length of the reciever as these older units were all barrel mounted, qiute long in length and heavy by todays standards. Back in there hey day, Barrel harmonics were not a major issue. These scopes bring premium prices in todays market. Unertle is still around but as I have heard they are quite busy with military contracts of some type. There was a company out East which was ( closed up couple years back) making these types of scopes They started at about $1200 each. They are what I grew up with in posistion shooting
 
Blades: Thank you for the explanation.
I appreciate it.
I have owned and used all the scopes you mentioned except the Fecker's. I have owned them but never mounted and then shot one of them.
I wish I had the Remingtons and all the Unertls I have owned in the past back! Profit motives here.
The worry I have with that old technology are the tolerances and spring pressures and the new geometry - now spread over a shorter distance (the length of an action!) that will only help to multiply any error that may occur in the spring loaded three point retentions systems (front and rear).
I hope it can work out - we are all interested in maximizing our Rifle/scope combinations accuracy potentials.
Thanks again
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VarmintGuy
 
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