Outcomes related to soaring gun sales . . .

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Our local newspaper had a featured article on gun sales at shops or gun counters in the area.

All dealers reported dramatic increases in sales. Several dealers reported at least 50 pct increases compared to the same period last year. Others complained they could hardly keep guns in stock. Apparently the most popular guns have been semi-auto military style rifles like the AR's, as well as police-popular handguns such as Glocks.

Some consequences are already apparent. It is difficult to purchase .224 bullets -- especially in some weights -- and other products like small rifle primers appear to be hard to find. A different shooting forum also reported difficulty in finding certain popular powders in stock.

One consequence I can think of is a problem with availability. I should think that this sales surge would affect prices too. Copper and lead prices have dropped dramatically in the last year, but with the kind of demand being experienced, I doubt the ammo manufacturers have much incentive to cut back the recent stiff increases in ammo and component pricing.

What do folks think about all this?
 
It isn't the

manufactures who are raising their prices. This gouging is the work of some of our vendors.
 
RStiefel said:
manufactures who are raising their prices. This gouging is the work of some of our vendors.
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exactly...just go to rock river arms and look at the suggested retail and then go online or to your gun shop and compare.

They have a 4-12 month window for their lead time:eek:

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I have never witnessed a component manufacturer setting back prices as a result of lower operating/material costs ( or any other reason for that matter).
 
Supply and Demand

Heck, in the Houston Area, you can hardly get into a Gun Show. Large crowds of People are buying anything, and everything.

I wonder if the President has noticed this..........jackie
 
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Maybe the apathy in this country is not as bad as i thought it was. As fas as not being able to purchase shooting supplies, it seems to me that as long as i have been handloading(since the late 70's) there has always been a shortage of something. As i have stated before, the price increase always follows the shortage. Some call stocking up on supplies hoarding, some call it being prepared, and i call it--Dave ain't going to run out.

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With all the restrictions on exporting firearms and related items it is good you have a busy market to keep your manufacturers going.

Here in Canada sales of a lot of US made stuff is down because US laws are preventing/hindering the export of those items.

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The end of February the wife and I were in McAllen, TX, visiting a friend and his wife. The friend and his neighbor, were on continuous patrol for ammunition. We went into WallyWorld so I could pick up some hearing aid batteries (deafness isn't my ONLY problem), and they had one each box of .32 ACP and .44 Mag, and two boxes of .380 ACP. No other centerfire pistol ammo in stock.

In Billings it's not quite that bad, but some reloading components are in short supply although I haven't done much shopping since we got home.
 
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Dennis Sorensen said:
With all the restrictions on exporting firearms and related items it is good you have a busy market to keep your manufacturers going.

Here in Canada sales of a lot of US made stuff is down because US laws are preventing/hindering the export of those items.

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it. Our local shops are a good example.They have there orders placed for powder primers and bullets. The thing is they have no idea when they will receive the products if ever. I call BS on this S++t.

I don't care who owns the company here in Canada but if the powder is made here we should be able to buy it directly from the Manufacturer. Not send it south to be packaged and then require exportation back to Canada. I will guarantee it is not as hard to send south as it is to send north.

I have heard rumors that it is not as hard to have a 50 Cal built in Canada and sent to the US. Try and get a 50 from the south. NEVER going to happen.

I am fed up with all our politicians and the decisions they make. Squeeze the gun owner. WE ARE ALL FULL OF EVIL, AND DEATH because we own a firearm.

GROW UP POLITICIANS, there are more good people out there than you think. As it goes with anything the good people never get rewarded. Just take it up the Ying Yang.

My Sunday morning rant ecause I hate time change.

Calvin
 
Others complained they could hardly keep guns in stock.
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Seems like if you were in gun sales that means business is doing well and nothing to complain about:D GM would love to be in that scenario with car sales - "I hate it , we just can't keep these cars on the lot!"

I have never witnessed a component manufacturer setting back prices as a result of lower operating/material costs ( or any other reason for that matter).
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Yep , that is correct. I've read many times - "Once the price of lead/copper goes down and the war ends prices will drop" Sure they will.:rolleyes:
 
Guy Pike said:
People buying guns left and right just to have them banned or confiscated.:(
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The American public is vary naive about gun registration. Remember government has always worked hard not calling it firearms registration. As long as you don't call it what it is, then all is well.

Trust the government! They only want to look out for you, and would never do anything not in our best interest.:mad:
 
Guy Pike said:
People buying guns left and right just to have them banned or confiscated.:(
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I've thought about this, too! You'd think that the extra demand for ammo and other gun-related things would translate into the manufacturers wanting to work more and, well, just make more to meet the demand. It's as if they're working at the same pace, same work hours, and not hiring any other help (no doubt someone out there NEEDS a job) to meet the current demand. Instead, I've seen nothing but unacceptable wait times and skyrocketing prices, not to mention decreasing quality control on guns being made too fast. Something's wrong here.
 
seasterl said:
I've thought about this, too! You'd think that the extra demand for ammo and other gun-related things would translate into the manufacturers wanting to work more and, well, just make more to meet the demand. It's as if they're working at the same pace, same work hours, and not hiring any other help (no doubt someone out there NEEDS a job) to meet the current demand. Instead, I've seen nothing but unacceptable wait times and skyrocketing prices, not to mention decreasing quality control on guns being made too fast. Something's wrong here.
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It makes more sense than you might guess, when you know that the guy that heads up the one corporation that owns most of the leading manufacturer is a former Vice President of the U.S. Dan (can't spell) Quayle.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus_Capital_Management


Owners of Remington and a few other small companies.

Is the light starting to come on for you? Wake up folks, it's time to smell the roses.
 
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Government can't run a "Chicken Ranch". And make a profit. How are they going to fix things.

Big Al. Barry can't spell either. But, he did win. Just ask him.:confused:
 
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Big Al said:
It makes more sense than you might guess, when you know that the guy that heads up the one corporation that owns most of the leading manufacturer is a former Vice President of the U.S. Dan (can't spell) Quayle....Is the light starting to come on for you? Wake up folks, it's time to smell the roses.
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No lights for me yet. What does Dan Quayle have to do with a dozen firearms manufacturers not keeping up with demand and skyrocketing prices? Nothing, IMO. It reminds me of the fuel "crisis." Someone out there is always looking for ways to price gouge, too. Our biggest competition on most ammo and guns are guys preparing for the next civil war. I just don't why supply cannot keep up with demand when many firearms are made in the USA. Sounds like a great start to helping the economy and creating more jobs. The alternative is not having any demand, no jobs, and nothing to build.
 
The gun makers all know what happened after every war that they geared up to supply guns and ammunition for. When the war ended the demand dried up and they were left with laid off or fired workers, silent plants, and no market for their product. The same thing could happen after this demand dries up.

It's not easy to go out and hire some guy off the street to run machine tools or assemble the parts into functioning guns either. By the time they've got the people to meet the demand the demand might be gone, or the guns illegal. If I were a gun maker right now I'd do what I could to fill orders without going berserk doing it. If the nice boys and girls in the current administration and Congress decide that they don't want us to have a whole bunch of guns that they find evil, the makers of those guns are up the brown creek with no paddle and a leaky canoe.

As for guns, ammunition, components, scopes, screwdrivers and anything else remotely gun related being restricted for export, the problem is politicians in the US, Canada, Europe, and Australia who don't think we should have guns or shoot. I can think of a few solutions, but they're mostly illegal. :eek:
 
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