Outcomes related to soaring gun sales . . .

Paul, since my friend and his wife are reconsidering living in Texas due to the problems on the border it may be awhile or never. :(
 
Larry Elliott said:
Paul, since my friend and his wife are reconsidering living in Texas due to the problems on the border it may be awhile or never. :(
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Bummer...born and raised here, so it's home. Tell them, some of us even go across and work there on purpose:eek::eek:

Just glad I don't go every day like I used to.



Sorry to hijack:cool: Again, it's not the mfg's who are gouging the prices right now. It is the retailers.


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Cerebus

I had opined on another forum that one check could put multiple gun manufacturers out of business when they're owned by a holding company. I was flamed hard. Well boys and girls our current leaders are writing far bigger checks than it would take to shut down the gun companies that Cerebus owns!Bet they could be boght for less than a billion.
 
True Humor

My wife returned today from a dog show in Tulsa,OK, and brought a Tulse newspaper. Front Page story of a Hunter Safety instructor who, before the class started asked if anyone had voted for Obama, those that raised thier hands were told to leave, and did..... UPDATE... instructor has been relieved of duty. What a shame more unemployment
 
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I never fail to be amazed by the people who say that the only gun they need is, "dad's old thutty-thutty, and their 12 ga shotgun. Don't need none a them fancy sniper rifles with scopes, or 'assault rifles', or handguns either, and furthermore they should probably all be outlawed anyway." If that sort of logic were used about a lot of stuff, we could outlaw eating snails, raw oysters, and a lot of other stuff I wouldn't eat, big fancy cars that I can't afford, and mansions too. Of course the last two may well be outlawed for us commoners along with them dadburn nasty 'assault weapons' and handguns too.

Those are the folks who vote for gun banners, then wonder why they just got jabbed in the tail with a nice, new, sharp tined pitchfork afterwards.
 
Assault Rifle

A weapon well paid engineers designed to be as light as possible, maintained and operated by teenagers (recruits), in the worst possible weather conditions, most adverse physical conditions, and still function reliably. Now who in their right mind would want to own such a piece of engineering excellence.
 
Larry Elliott said:
The end of February the wife and I were in McAllen, TX, visiting a friend and his wife. The friend and his neighbor, were on continuous patrol for ammunition. We went into WallyWorld so I could pick up some hearing aid batteries (deafness isn't my ONLY problem), and they had one each box of .32 ACP and .44 Mag, and two boxes of .380 ACP. No other centerfire pistol ammo in stock.

In Billings it's not quite that bad, but some reloading components are in short supply although I haven't done much shopping since we got home.
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look around Billings now, or the rest of Montana for that matter. I cannot find any rifle primers of any size or brand anywhere in Montana! and most powders and bullets out too!
 
seasterl said:
No lights for me yet. What does Dan Quayle have to do with a dozen firearms manufacturers not keeping up with demand and skyrocketing prices? Nothing, IMO. It reminds me of the fuel "crisis." Someone out there is always looking for ways to price gouge, too. Our biggest competition on most ammo and guns are guys preparing for the next civil war. I just don't why supply cannot keep up with demand when many firearms are made in the USA. Sounds like a great start to helping the economy and creating more jobs. The alternative is not having any demand, no jobs, and nothing to build.
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It is known as consolidation of market. Firearms manufactures dictate to the ammo manufactures than many of might realize.When you can control the most market space you can pretty much dictate to the rest of the market.

That wikipedia site does not tell even half of what this one holding group now owns in the firearms field. Whenever you can limit your manufacturing efforts and see a higher gain in profits, who would not follow along? As reported today on FOX NEWS, gun sales in the USA are up 33% since Barry took office. With the exception of government what other industry see any gain?

Before when I was watching the firearms market started this consolidation, my main concern was the less of clout with the government. Less voices to spend money with the politicians.
 
Pete ...

Montana Pete said:
Our local newspaper had a featured article on gun sales at shops or gun counters in the area.

All dealers reported dramatic increases in sales. Several dealers reported at least 50 pct increases compared to the same period last year. Others complained they could hardly keep guns in stock. Apparently the most popular guns have been semi-auto military style rifles like the AR's, as well as police-popular handguns such as Glocks.

Some consequences are already apparent. It is difficult to purchase .224 bullets -- especially in some weights -- and other products like small rifle primers appear to be hard to find. A different shooting forum also reported difficulty in finding certain popular powders in stock.

One consequence I can think of is a problem with availability. I should think that this sales surge would affect prices too. Copper and lead prices have dropped dramatically in the last year, but with the kind of demand being experienced, I doubt the ammo manufacturers have much incentive to cut back the recent stiff increases in ammo and component pricing.

What do folks think about all this?
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A couple of courses, namely Psychology 101 and Economics 101, or the book: Paranoia Running Rampant by I.C. Fear, will explain the current forces controlling the market. It's that basic. ;)
 
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Skidly said:
look around Billings now, or the rest of Montana for that matter. I cannot find any rifle primers of any size or brand anywhere in Montana! and most powders and bullets out too!
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Went into the Sportsman's Warehouse that opened here last August, and has been short of stuff since it opened and it looks like they'd gotten some stuff in, but they had very few pistol primers, hardly any powder, and not many bullets in stock. I cleaned 'em out of Power Pistol, bought the only pound they had on the shelf. They had two lb of RL-15 for $23/lb which offended my delicate sensibilities so they stayed where they were.

The '09 Midsouth Shooter's Supply catalog arrived yesterday in the mail and they're showing RL-15 at nearly $99/5 lb. I bought a 5 lb cannister of RL-15 locally in October or November last year for ~$80. Gulp.

Have to check out a couple other places that usually have a better stock of components, but it's not looking happy around here either.
 
23$lb

Don't know what you normaly pay retail that would be good in Indiana
 
It varies, but that's $1-2 more than just last fall and early winter for a lb of RL powder.
 
perfect response

abintx said:
A couple of courses, namely Psychology 101 and Economics 101, or the book: Paranoia Running Rampant by I.C. Fear, will explain the current forces controlling the market. It's that basic. ;)
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You could not be more correct!
 
things

well i talked to a counter man at walmart today columbia, mo matter of fact and he says those democrats coming in and buying like crazy whats with this?

bob
 
cwop said:
well i talked to a counter man at walmart today columbia, mo matter of fact and he says those democrats coming in and buying like crazy whats with this?

bob
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Well,this proves two things
#1..........all the hoarding is being done by them dastardly....................................democrats:rolleyes:
#2...........democrats are BIG spenders by nature:D
 
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