New jacket on Bart's Ultra ?

Capitalism at its best.

Basic laws:

Supply goes down, price goes up.
Demand goes up, price goes up.

Very seldom does price go down.
UNLESS:

Supply gets replaced by a better supply of something else.
Demand goes away.
And the one sure fire value killer, I buy some and then dont want it anymore ;)

Its America. I like the way it works. Very seldom do I have enough money to play the game to its pinnacle, but I always hang onto my right to try.

Time for bed.

PS. Pat, if all it took was those bullets so I could shoot as well as you do on a bad day, I would have an order in for 10,000 bullets at $1 apiece :D
 
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stiller said:
Basic laws:

...Very seldom does price go down.
UNLESS:

Supply gets replaced by a better supply of something else.
Demand goes away... ;)

...:D
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Nothing shows this better than when the original Sako .220 Russian brass was selling for $6 to 8 apiece. I should have sold what I had the way it turned out. But, if you don't have the brass, you can't play the game. By the time Lapua, came out with their brass, I was down to less that 100 pieces and still have whatever small amount I had left. One thing about the old .220 Russian brass though, it lasted forever as there wasn't anyway you could shoot it at the pressures that are being shot today. The primer pockets would give up before the brass got tight.
 
.220 Russian Brass

Mike I know a guy that hordes everything BR and then gloats about how much he has. He has told me and others he has thousands of new .220 Russian brass. He said he bought these as an investment and has turned down $2 each piece because he seen some sell for $3 each. He doesn't shoot anymore and has piled up large quanities of primers and powder also figuring he can turn a profit. I told him good luck if he can find a buyer and get his price.

Everybody in BR sets aside extra components when they can afford to Mike. What I was referring to is the standing orders that some have with retailers so much that when say 1000 lbs of powder comes to a retailer he fills his standing orders first and there is none left for the average guy. Some of these standing orders are sold to people that are hoarding, denying components to people that have none and driving up the prices as quantities get slim.

I have no bone to pick with retailers they are just turning their money hoping to make a decent profit. I would hope the gluttons with staning orders would back off and let the little guy have an inventory to buy from without inflated prices that happen after the hoarders buy their standing orders. I have no standing orders with retailers.

Stephen Perry
Angeles BR
 
From what I have seen over the years

all the bullets I have ever had could be made to shoot well, regardless of who made them. Perhaps 30 cal bullets are a lot more forgiving than 6 MM bullets but I doubt it. When I have had bullets that didn't shoot well it was becaues they were not consistent in ogive length. Once I sorted them and paid attention to the loaded OAl of the round all of hem shot fine.

This leads me to believe that the legends of certain bullets are way over blown; same for brass.
 
There has been more than one time

that I wished I was organized enough to have standing orders. I have been bit more then once running out of stuff I need for a shoot.

stiller
 
From what I've seen in benchrest, there is nothing that is better than what you don't have and can't get whether it's BLC, GI322, T32, magic bullets or whatever the latest unobtanium is. Benchrest shooters probably tend to hoard a little to a lot depending upon what their finances are. I don't see much need to have more powder or other components than you can shoot in a reasonable length of time shooting benchrest. Besides that it's probably not legal (or maybe prudent) to have that much powder especially if it's all stored in one place. However,depending upon how much one shoots, what might be one man's hoarding may be one persons years supply of components. I've heard of some of the top shooters going through 10,000 rounds per year. That's pretty close to 40 or so pounds of powder in a years time. A stock of 120 pounds of powder for these guys would be 3 years worth of shooting. For me it might take 10 or more years to shoot that much.
 
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