Need help picking a scope for benchrest

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apollo022777

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I would like to get a nightforce 12-42 BR scope. But what reticle? Fine crosshair? NP-R2? Would it help to have reticle that I can holdover with(like the NP-R2 or mildot)? And do I even need a varible power scope( to reduce power for mirage )? Or should I go with a Leupold Competition 35x, 40x, 45x?

Thanks for the help
 
I guess the obvious question is, what kind of benchrest? If you intend to shoot a class that has a 10.5# weight limit, you should probably stay away from the Nightforce scopes because of their weight.
 
What weight rifle are you going to put this scope on? Are you planning to shoot 100 yard and 200 yard BR with this rifle?
 
I'm sorry I don't know about weight limits, I'm new to this and I need help
 
If you give us a distance you plan on shooting..that would help us spend your $$$ also. :)
 
Starting off at 100 yards then going up to 600 yards.
 
Apollo

There are three "common disciplines" or divisions in Benchrest.

In no particular order;

----100-200yd Group, or "short-range benchrest for group" wherein the stated goal is to make the smallest group of five shots........and then to do this 4 more times for a total aggregate score. The group can form anywhere in the target area with no penalty. The most common chambering is the 6PPC, a very stubby 6MM round.

----100-200yd Score, or "short-range benchrest for score" most often called Hunter Bench Rest or HBR for short. Here the goal is to shoot at five different targets with the score being assigned for closest to center. Again, 5 groups of 5 shots for an aggregate or "agg". A subdivision of this sport which has gained popularity of late is "Varmint for Score". These are generally ruled by 30 caliber rifles, shortened .308's for true HBR and blown out PPC/BR cases like the 30BR for Varmint for Score.

----600-1000yd Benchrest, or "long-range benchrest"...........here the same targets are often scored for both Group and Score, or for EITHER Group or Score.......The rifles vary across the spectrum from .22's to .338's but are tailored for long-range wind-bucking as much as for intrinsic accuracy. A Long Range Bench Rest rifle will never be competitive in Short Range Bench Rest and vise-versa. There is very little crossover between the disciplines.


Go to the top of the page and clik on "Benchrest Central Home" to go to the homepage where you can click on the various Organization logos to see the real rules.


To do exactly what you want to do, I'd buy or have built a 6BR with one extra barrel. Spec'd properly this rig could actually be competitive at 100-200 and at 600 with only a simple barrel change. This is as close to a crossover rig as you can get IMO.............. Another rig would be a "30X47" set up similarly, this rig could compete in 100-200yd Group, Score and Varmint for Score and yet make a real showing @ 600yds............no one's ever done this to the best of my knowledge but it COULD be very effective. You would have to endure some recoil with this setup ;) (It would recoil about like a .243 hunting rifle shooting 100gr loads.......this seems negligible, until you do it all day.)



If you're limited to just one barrel you could get a "tight-twist" 6BR, in other words have it barreled with an 8" twist, and the rifle could compete at a 100-200 group match, a 100-200 Varmint for Score Match or a 600yd Match where it could shine.


hth



al
 
Al / Appolo; I'm thinking of building a cross-over between a coyote caller and VFS. Using a reputable custom repeater action, build a 6mmBR pillar bedded into a walking thumbhole varminter. Also have another 30BR barrel threaded & chambered (switch) and have it pillar bedded into a laminated BR stock. Using a follower sitting atop foam pading for clearance in the magazine well. I don't think I'll give up much to full bedded & glued rigs. The only draw-back... is now I'm looking at using two scopes set up on davidson bases, where I can slide one off the 6BR set-up and slide another one on when I have the 30BR barrel in place. MAybe use different ring heights as well. Or possible use a set-up like the warne bases where the rings can come off and a scope be replaced.

I'm more interested in a custom caller set-up, but always wanted a 30BR to play with and add to my shooting choices. I have the two stocks already laying around here and a 6mm barrel with a 1:12 twist heavy sporter contour, so it would be a fun project to try. I don't plan to use it for national matches or shooter of the year. More of a competetive score set-up!!!
 
weaver

Weaver fixed 40x scope with 1/8 MOA dot. Awesome for the money. You can get 2-3 for the price of a Lupy.
 
Does Weaver build a fixed 40X scope these days??? Must be something new. The ones I have are 36X out of the box.

Mike Swartz
 
Apollo

Please do not think I am bashing our fine scope manufacturers, but, as a fairly seasoned Benchrest Shooter, my best advice to you would be to contact Gene Bukys and aquire one of his external adjustable TSI mounts and have him freeze a 45x Leupold, or a 36x Weaver or 36x Leupold. I base this statement on the fact thatn I have taken 4 of the major brands of Benchrest scopes apart, anylized the workings, and know exactly what can go wrong.
I know that sounds radical, but in my opinion, there are only two types of internal adjustment scopes, those that have failed, and those that are getting ready too.
Many a fine Benchrest Shooter has beat his head against the wall trying to figure out why things are not working, when all along it was that scope.
I won't comment on the March because I do not own one........jackie
 
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freeze

how do we get a hold of this Gene Bukys,sounds like a good idea and how much does it cost to freeze a scope.
 
Yesterday

Jim Borden had a frozen Leup in a set of Brackney rings on the classifieds here. Would be pretty hard to beat that setup I would think.
 
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