my calfee

[Beau]

In 1998 when Bill Calfee built a rifle for me he did the trigger work on the rifle. It states so on the bill which I still have. I don't think he charged me for something he did not do, do you? For some reason I thought gunsmiths did trigger work.

James,

Just out of curiosity, did the invoice say Bill adjsuted your trigger. Doing "no" trigger work is one thing. Bill has stated that he sets triggers back for better ignition, etc. What I said is that he does not adjust triggers and I think that statement is accurate. As with any gunsmith, he would be required to do some trigger work; mounting, setting it back, whatever. But I don't think he adjusts the trigger.

I may need to define what I mean by "adjust". I'm talking about using the mechanical means within the trigger to set weight, travel, etc.

 

[MIKECAMERON]

In 1998 when Bill Calfee built a rifle for me he did the trigger work on the rifle. It states so on the bill which I still have. I don't think he charged me for something he did not do, do you? For some reason I thought gunsmiths did trigger work.

James, all that may be but it is in the mag in no uncertain terms, I read it and I havent seen your bill.

 

[MIKECAMERON]

Mike, we are even, I haven't seen the article in Precision Shooting. You want me to post the bill?

You want me to post the article?
Also James as long as you have been in shooting sports I would think you understand what he means by trigger work as in adjusting sear engagement and pull weight.I do give you that remounting trigger can be construed as trigger work but it isnt what anyone thinks of when someone says "trigger work".

 

[Fred J]

It's a must

Any Gunsmith that installs a trigger, and does not adjust it to a safe standard, he can live with, is rather stupid, and you can't fix stupid. He also opens himself up for a lawsuit, in that rifle or trigger causes an accident if he shipped it in an unsave manner. He better adjust it, just to cover his six.

 

[Beau]

My bill states as you said , moving trigger back for better ignition. Mike stated Bill does no trigger work. I consider moving the trigger back trigger work. In fact the bill is worded to say "trigger work". I believe you when you say Bill does not adjust triggers. I was suprised when you stated that a couple of days ago. Wasn't arguing just suprised.

James,

I agree. Saying "no" trigger work is a whole different story than adjusting. I never meant to say that there "no" work. That would be wierd set up.

 

[MIKECAMERON]

When Bill Calfee tells me he moved the trigger on my action, I take that to mean he did trigger work on my rifle. When Bill Calfee says he added a third lever to a micro motion trigger , I consider that trigger work. When Bill Calfee says he put a relaxed trigger on a spec rifle, I consider that trigger work. I agree with your definition, but there is more to it than adjusting a trigger. I would also bet CWOP's problem with his Shilen trigger is the firing pin block needs to be reground by some who is familar with Shilen triggers. That is trigger work. Adjusting it will not solve the problem.

James, I agree with everything you said here, I was just posting what I read in precision shooter mag authored by BC,now either he doesnt believe all that to constitute trigger work or he lied about not doing trigger work HIMSELF, but the quote is accurate.

 

[Fred J]

Question

James:
I would question, whether Bill C was responsible for the third lever in the Winchester Micro-Motion Trigger. All he did, was relocate the pivot pin, something that several locals have been doing for years. He just likes to repeat history and take credit. I've watched that crap for 20 years now and that's where I get my attitude about BC.

PS: When you relocate a trigger, it puts a different stress on the sear, and then the trigger needs to be adjusted to be safe and operate as designed.

 

[Carp]

Fred J, Beau, James P and all who thought any different to what I posted in post #14
That might cause what I call a "slam fire"? Just by closing the bolt with a live round in the chamber and the firing pin falls? I agree with you, it takes trigger 'work or "adjustment" to make it safe. It's more than just torquing the screws to the action and calling it good enough. I never meant grinding, polishing (although I think almost all smiths would do that that built a truly so-called spec. gun), or any real mechanical derivatives (meaning changing the original mechanical method of operation). Adjustment is critical for safety and that is what I meant in post #14. Is that "picking" on BC? I seem to have that reputation once in a while.

CaRP