Living in Alaska

For 19 years 1969-1998

Lived mostly in the "bush". The cost of living is NOT bad it all depoends upon your style of living, in the "bush" it use to cost us about $4000-$5000 for the basics that were barged in spring and summer that was for gas in barrels and propane, "dry goods" and canned stuff. Two freezers held enought food for the year and there were no distractions like bars and etc. to spend your money at, plus no cars, etc with insurance and etc. to be billed for. So a 4-wheeler and a boat were your means of transportation and an occational flight out to get whatever you really needed or to see the doctors. For the first 10 years we saved 50% of our gross salary as I was a teacher than superintendent of schools in Nulato and Galena moving next to Dillingham which was like living in a very small town of say 3000 for most of the year or until the salmon season started then there were at lease 100 more fishing boats in town. But most of the big money came and went with the out of state boat owners. Last was spent in Noatak a village above the arctic circle which was the best 2 years I spent in Alaska for the pure enjoyment of hunting and fishing. We left in 1998 and have been back a few times to visit property there and friends. The confidence it gives you to know that you can survive is unbelievable in knowing you can survive anywhere as long as you live a "straight life" and take care of your family first and spend your money wisely !!!!! A few fishing nets, trapes and a few good guns with reloading equipment, a fair knowledge of mechanics of small engines and a wife that can cook and preserve foods that has a positive personallity are the basis of a good life in the rural areas of Alaska. The one thing most important is to learn to fix whatever and if you get it wrong the first time do it over and over again until you get it right and BE PREPARED !!!! Once the locals "see" you can handle yourself properly and you gain their respect you will live a GREAT life up there. Once you begin to SHARE with them, life get alot easier. GOOD LUCK
 
Air temp in my part of Minnesota is currently -8, and it's 1:08 in the afternoon and sunny out. I hate this deceptive weather.

I got some minor frostbite on my feet last night. Was relaxing in a hot tub and decided to step out onto the porch deck outside for a moment, and noticed that my feet were sticking to the deck surface like a kid's tongue on a flagpole when I took steps. Needless to say, flip flops are in order for next time.

Yah you betcha it sure is darned cold up here!
 
I have a good friend in Wasilla, AK that I visit for a couple of weeks during the summers for the fishing and flying when I can get up there (and visit with Jim Finn too). I love Alaska in June, July, and August but I want out of there by the first of September. I spoke to my friend on the phone early one morning a few days ago and the temperature at his home was minus 43 F. The temperature at my home in coastal NC was plus 67 F. I know where I want to be in the winter. His wife says she still remembers warm since they lived in Tampa, FL before he was assigned to Alaska by Uncle Sam.
 
I spent a couple years outside of Fairbanks courtesy of Uncle Sam, Alinwa left out a few things. You have to get up half an hour early to put on your bunny boots, three layers of pants, shirts, glove liners, gloves, hood and bibs and parka, then get undressed when you forgot to take your keys out of your pants pocket first. In the winter it's dark when you get up, it's dark till about 11:30 am, then it would be dawn if it weren't for the ice fog blocking all the light! By the end of lunch it's dark again. Your car trunk is full of survival gear so if you should get stuck on a back road you don't freeze to death before someone misses you. Good times....now that I'm not there.

Dennis


Ohhh jeepers, you reminded me of another thing I forgot....... :eek:

"You get up a half hour early to put on your bunny boots, three layers of pants, shirts, glove liners, gloves, hood and bibs and parka, then get undressed when you forgot to take your keys out of your pants pocket first."............ and so then you peel back down to get the keys, but all you do is give yourself an opening to the pocket. You're leaned up against the couch so that your parka's close to hand and your bibs stay up high enough to grab. But you finally get all zipped back up with the keys in hand, you've worked up a sweat so you can't WAIT to get outside but as you put your hand on the doorhandle you realize......




You've got to pee....:eek:


Now without going into the mechanics of urination through 8" of clothing at minus 38F, suffice it to say that you decide to go back inside and start the process over. Except that there's not room in the bathroom for all the gear so you've got to leave a trail all the way from the door....and THIS time it's all laying across the floor. You've decided BUGGER that sore back, you're heated up enough now that it ain't hurting no more..

You're late for whatever you got up a half hour early for.


Yukon Kid's got it right about the preparation/survival thing. In fact to this day and after living in The Banana Belt for 20yrs now I STILL have blankets in the car. I don't leave home without a coat and it just frosts me how completely unprepared for weather other people live. We lose more people from exposure here in WA every year than AK does. Because Alaskans KNOW that weather can KILL YOU!!! As a Hunter Ed and Survival instructor I'm very attuned to this stuff.

And another thing. Down here in (most of) the lower 48 people are so far removed from real danger that they can't tell fact from fiction. I recently cut out and copied a "Wilderness Survival Shelters" how-to article from Outdoor Life. To use in my class as "what NOT to do!" .....Really, about 2 issues ago OL has an article on building shelters in the woods, survival shelters. I cut it out and made copies to pass around the room. My lecture explains how if you try to follow these instructions you'll probably die. My NEW OL came yesterday (BTW I'm not dissing OL, they're overall a good mag) and in it there's a nice little article about what do do if you get lost. How you need to set down, take a break and assess, maybe a eat a light snack...... My favorite though was "get some sleep". Get some friggin' SLEEP???? ANYBODY who's ever ever spent an unprotected night in the woods north of the 45th Parallel can answer this one. The writer obviously lived in the sunny south.

Alaska will teach you WHAT WORKS!

You will pare down to basics..... "needs" will become a meaningful word.

And it will prepare you for survival anywhere.

It will teach you that contrary to what the fuzzbunny environmentalist wakkjob crowd thinks, "close to nature" SUUUCKSS!!!!!

I be lovin' the grid mon!!

al
 
Peein' in the cold....


I just can't let this go :D

Show of hands.... HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE have unzipped, unbuttoned and unlaced the shell......

Parka

vest

Coveralls

Shirts

pants

clear down to the woollies (cap and gloves are still on)

You carefully lay it all down behind you, tuck the bibs thru your ankles and waddle-drag over the snow to the side of a building, your truck or a tree so's you can lean out over your swampers to pee.......???????

MAN!!! That 30-below-zero air swirling around your hidden parts is just EXHILARATING ain't it? JUST like ya' read about eh???


You LEARN to buy coveralls and bibs which unzip LOW ENOUGH to be usable. These fair weather bibs from Pendleton or Carhartt SUCK in the cold!


ROTFLMAO


al
 
The Cardinal rule we teach children here, is you can never trust anyone else to save you. You must be prepared and only rely on yourself. No one has as much chance of saving you, as YOU!

None of this should discourage you about Alaska. I'm glad more people can't live this way, or we would be up to our arm pits with a$$holes.
 
Peein' in the cold....


I just can't let this go :D

Show of hands.... HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE have unzipped, unbuttoned and unlaced the shell......

Parka

vest

Coveralls

Shirts

pants

clear down to the woollies (cap and gloves are still on)

You carefully lay it all down behind you, tuck the bibs thru your ankles and waddle-drag over the snow to the side of a building, your truck or a tree so's you can lean out over your swampers to pee.......???????

MAN!!! That 30-below-zero air swirling around your hidden parts is just EXHILARATING ain't it? JUST like ya' read about eh???


You LEARN to buy coveralls and bibs which unzip LOW ENOUGH to be usable. These fair weather bibs from Pendleton or Carhartt SUCK in the cold!


ROTFLMAO


al


Al ,you forgot the part of running your finger up the old wazoo and yelling snake to pee.

Al, I can see by your post that you never did fully adapt to winter weather here in Our Alaska! Real Alaskan have learned to live with full pants and we are good for the full dirty dozen.:D

It's nice to have a wife that treats a man like a two year old, Question about "have you gone yet before you get dressed", help! Knit a cord for your gloves inside of your parka, are not and insult to you manly posture. Just remember she taught your children and is willing to teach you also.

What I like best is the wool blanket effect @ -50 and lower. Shake the blanket when you are under it and see the blue static electricity. Think about that, the next time you fuel up.:confused:
 
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The Cardinal rule we teach children here, is you can never trust anyone else to save you. You must be prepared and only rely on yourself. No one has as much chance of saving you, as YOU!

Big Al

That sums up Alaska in a nutshell. I am still that way after almost 20 years on the outside and it makes my wife angry. A neighbor will come by while I'm shoveling snow and offer to help but I say, "No thank you, I can handle it." I have to explain to them that I am not being unfriendly, just hard to break old habits.

Another old Alaska saying:

In the outside world a stranger has to prove himself before he can be your friend. In Alaska a stranger is automatically your friend unless he proves himself to be unworthy of your friendship.

Ray
 
How vary true!

SNOW in beautiful down town Linden, Arizona? Where the He!! is Al Gore in this crap?
 
How vary true!

SNOW in beautiful down town Linden, Arizona? Where the He!! is Al Gore in this crap?
So Big Al you are saying your a big Al Gore Fan :D. Your right he made a lot of money on lies. Thanks everyone for the feedback. Appreciate the info from each of you. Thanks Kevin
 
I was born in Alaska and since it was so cold and we were so poor that if I hadn't been born a boy I wouldn't have had anything to play with. ;)

gt40
 
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That reminds me ... Does anyone know what the Alaska state bird is ??? It's the MOSQUITO !!! Those suckers are BIG !!! :D
 
GT40,
When I was 12 yrs old we lived outside of Fairbanks at an Air Force Base called Ladd AFB. I delivered the Fairbanks Daily News Miner newspaper to the base trailer court. The officers had their trailer court and the enlisted men had theirs. They were about 10 miles apart I thought, but maybe 1/4 mile. I was stuck between the 2 and had to pee on the coldest day that I remember-54deg below zero. I had several layers of clothes on and it was hiding. Yes, I did pee down my britches and yes it froze instantly.
I told my wife that story and she said it must be -54deg all the time at our house.
Butch
 
That reminds me ... Does anyone know what the Alaska state bird is ??? It's the MOSQUITO !!! Those suckers are BIG !!! :D


WRONG!!!



The mosquito is the Minndesoda State Bird and an AK mosquito is a wimp compared :D:D




In MN we rated mosquito size by how many wood ticks they could support......


I lived a few miles from Sandstone Federal Penitentiary. Legend has it that prisoners have escaped before, but none have made it through the swamps. Some turned themselves back in. Legend has it ;)


Now for sheer NUMBERS, I hear AK is in the running. A shooting buddy of mine here in WA used to fly the mail up the AlCan, he tells of rounding downwind of a high swamp when a wind came up. So many mosquitoes were blown onto the plane that he completely lost visibility. The windscreen was completely obscured. He was able to land by finding rain to fly through.......And my sister and brother-in-law live in Nome, moved there from MN. They'll boat inland 30-60mi in search of big pike. I've heard from my bro-in-laws own lips that some places the bugs get "bad"........this perty much says it :D


al
 
Lived mostly in the "bush". The cost of living is NOT bad it all depoends upon your style of living, in the "bush" it use to cost us about $4000-$5000 for the basics...

Prices have changed since 1998. Costs of gasoline and heating oil are now unaffordable in the bush. Even in town the Alaska gasoline prices never went down that much--they're highest in the nation!

But, if you have 8 or 10 kids you get a Permanent Fund Dividend check for each of them plus you and your wife--$2000 each in 2008, plus last year Sarah Palin gave everyone an additional $1200 energy rebate! So if you're working in Walmart in Arkansas for $7.50 an hour, the kids are hungry, and the bank is about to foreclose, move on up to Alaska and get some of that free cash!!
 
That reminds me ... Does anyone know what the Alaska state bird is ??? It's the MOSQUITO !!! Those suckers are BIG !!! :D



Willow ptarmigan, Only State I know that lets you kill the State bird for the table. If you think about it, how do you beat a philosophy like that?
 
Willow ptarmigan, Only State I know that lets you kill the State bird for the table. If you think about it, how do you beat a philosophy like that?


hmmmm, good thinking right thar ;)

Let's see, we've got PA with the Ruffed Grouse (eater) and South Dakota with the Ringnecked Pheasant (import, eater) and Rhode Island with the Rhode Island Red!!! Definitely an eater!!


Ohhh yeahhh, and lets not forget wonderful California, their State Bird is the California Valley Quail. I've never et one but they're predicting a banner hunting season this year! :D

http://www.californiagameandfish.com/hunting/upland-birds-hunting/CA_1005_02/index.html


how 'bout THEM apples!


LOL


al
 
I was a fishing guide for a couple of summers in Alaska and the bugs were like no place I have ever been. As long as you were on the river the bugs didn't bother you too bad.

I had a woman on the boat one time and she had to pee. I pulled over and told her not to go too far into the bush and she looked back at me really scared and said "are the bears going to eat me?"
I said screw the bears you will have more mosquito's and black flies than you can imagine.
She proceeded to go a little farther back than I would recommend and came back screaming and pulling her pants back up as she tried to run with a cloud of bugs. Good thing she had a sense of humor cause we laughed like crazy.

I had no idea that there were that many people in the summer. We floated the upper Kenia river a few times and the people were lined up two and three deep fishing for reds on the Russian river.

I loved Alaska in the summer. I arrived in May and stayed until September but I know that I would not have been able to handle the limited sun of winter. It is the most beautiful place I have ever been. The mountains and rivers were amazing.
 
hmmmm, good thinking right thar ;)

Let's see, we've got PA with the Ruffed Grouse (eater) and South Dakota with the Ringnecked Pheasant (import, eater) and Rhode Island with the Rhode Island Red!!! Definitely an eater!!


Ohhh yeahhh, and lets not forget wonderful California, their State Bird is the California Valley Quail. I've never et one but they're predicting a banner hunting season this year! :D

http://www.californiagameandfish.com/hunting/upland-birds-hunting/CA_1005_02/index.html


how 'bout THEM apples!


LOL


al


See what happens when you live the life of a Westerner. Is there anything to the right of the Mississippi river?

You mean California still has something you left to hunt? Where are the animal protection people? :eek:
 
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