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tylerw02
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I don't think Ackman was paying attention to what I was saying. That is all good and well. I'm sure he is a great guy. Most people are opinionated. Its funny to watch Varmintguy and him go at it about ever quarter or so.
Ack had no place, as I quoted his first post, to say you were being silly and using faulty logic when there is no flaw in it. I used the hot numbers from my load books (I don't know what velocity is possible with the tame 6mmBR, never owned one---I'm a hunter and not a BR guy) to do my calculations which showed 3600-3650 as a max load. Anyway, either cartridge works quite well and you asked about a 6-6.5x47, not a 6mmBR in the first place.
As far as energy is concerned, it doesn't take much to kill a prairie dog, just depends on if you want the "red mist" and the dramatic effect. I've killed dogs out past 500 and the terminal affect isn't that great with the .20. On the otherhand, the dramatic effect isn't that great at any range if you use Lapua or Berger match bullets. I haven't done much testing with my AI past that range on dogs yet, but using the dent'n'scratch specials to fire-form my AI brass, there is pretty good terminal effects past 600 yards with the 6mmAI. My 6.5-284 really does a number with 100 gr Nosler BTs out at 700+ yards...then the 140 Bergers are just hole-punchers for pd carcases.
Anyway, being skeptical from the beginning, I'm a real 204 Ruger advocate...and .204" caliber in general.
If you want to supplement your 20, a hotter 6mm is the way to go. The 6mmAI or the 6-284 would do the trick with 87 gr V-Maxes, pushing them to 3600 with a better BC than any of the .204" bullets. I've heard of some guys hitting 3700 with 87s, but I tend to believe that is pushing it. Both cartridges require some sizing if you want high quality brass. One can use 7x57 Norma brass and neck to 6mm and fireform for the 6mmAI (myself, I just use Win) or you can take Lapua 6.5-284 brass and neck to 6mm for the 6-284. Myself, I went with a 6mmAI so I wouldn't mix 6-284 and 6.5-284 brass.
Ack had no place, as I quoted his first post, to say you were being silly and using faulty logic when there is no flaw in it. I used the hot numbers from my load books (I don't know what velocity is possible with the tame 6mmBR, never owned one---I'm a hunter and not a BR guy) to do my calculations which showed 3600-3650 as a max load. Anyway, either cartridge works quite well and you asked about a 6-6.5x47, not a 6mmBR in the first place.
As far as energy is concerned, it doesn't take much to kill a prairie dog, just depends on if you want the "red mist" and the dramatic effect. I've killed dogs out past 500 and the terminal affect isn't that great with the .20. On the otherhand, the dramatic effect isn't that great at any range if you use Lapua or Berger match bullets. I haven't done much testing with my AI past that range on dogs yet, but using the dent'n'scratch specials to fire-form my AI brass, there is pretty good terminal effects past 600 yards with the 6mmAI. My 6.5-284 really does a number with 100 gr Nosler BTs out at 700+ yards...then the 140 Bergers are just hole-punchers for pd carcases.
Anyway, being skeptical from the beginning, I'm a real 204 Ruger advocate...and .204" caliber in general.
If you want to supplement your 20, a hotter 6mm is the way to go. The 6mmAI or the 6-284 would do the trick with 87 gr V-Maxes, pushing them to 3600 with a better BC than any of the .204" bullets. I've heard of some guys hitting 3700 with 87s, but I tend to believe that is pushing it. Both cartridges require some sizing if you want high quality brass. One can use 7x57 Norma brass and neck to 6mm and fireform for the 6mmAI (myself, I just use Win) or you can take Lapua 6.5-284 brass and neck to 6mm for the 6-284. Myself, I went with a 6mmAI so I wouldn't mix 6-284 and 6.5-284 brass.
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