gimmick or useful?

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21st century hydro seater? Is a gimmick or is it useful ? Is if worth the cash over other arbor presses?

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Seating force seems to matter more at long range than short..... Now if your gun doesn't shoot sub..1 you may not see the difference at long range either...... jim
 
i have shot "pressure" sorted ammo in matches.
but honestly no testing, just reducing variables.
tool has dust on it right now.
( it was not tall enough for my ammo and the maker provided no support)
 
I watched a Bryan LitzVideo

the other day and he said seating pressure didn't matter but exact powder charges and seating depth did. I weigh every charge and measure every seated bullet with Stony point fixture on a caliper. Pull bullets if they are too short by .001" Gotta measure everything all the time :).

Pete
 
Pete Wass said:
the other day and he said seating pressure didn't matter but exact powder charges and seating depth did. I weigh every charge and measure every seated bullet with Stony point fixture on a caliper. Pull bullets if they are too short by .001" Gotta measure everything all the time :).

Pete
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A saying from my project management days "If you don't measure it you can't control it"
 
On my competition rifles, I try to tune with the lightest neck tension practical. This is especially true on my 30BR, where I have a good combination of a very light neck tension with the right seating depth. Finding the right seating depth will turn a .280 rile into a .200 rifle.

For years, I read that 133 like a lot of neck tension. I followed this creed for years, and then started experimenting with a lighter neck tension, and finding a seating depth and tuner setting that shoots at a sub.200 level.

I am finding more and more that seating depth is more important than neck tension.
 
"What get measured gets done" . . . sometimes even when it's wrong! Never underestimate the precision of tactile judgement . . . but that must be garnered via experience! :eek:;) RG
 
R.G. Robinett said:
"What get measured gets done" . . . sometimes even when it's wrong! Never underestimate the precision of tactile judgement . . . but that must be garnered via experience! :eek:;) RG
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Dovetailing this with something I've found about lots stuff:

"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

Good shootin'. :) -Al
 
Right

R.G. Robinett said:
"What get measured gets done" . . . sometimes even when it's wrong! Never underestimate the precision of tactile judgement . . . but that must be garnered via experience! :eek:;) RG
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He who measures everything, keep meticulous notes and intermittently tests after something is established, gets things done. There is no substitute for precise. I've been preaching this for how many years now?

Pete
 
jackie schmidt said:
on my competition rifles, i try to tune with the lightest neck tension practical. This is especially true on my 30br, where i have a good combination of a very light neck tension with the right seating depth. Finding the right seating depth will turn a .280 rile into a .200 rifle.

For years, i read that 133 like a lot of neck tension. I followed this creed for years, and then started experimenting with a lighter neck tension, and finding a seating depth and tuner setting that shoots at a sub.200 level.

I am finding more and more that seating depth is more important than neck tension.
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so right.
 
jackie schmidt said:
On my competition rifles, I try to tune with the lightest neck tension practical. This is especially true on my 30BR, where I have a good combination of a very light neck tension with the right seating depth. Finding the right seating depth will turn a .280 rile into a .200 rifle.

For years, I read that 133 like a lot of neck tension. I followed this creed for years, and then started experimenting with a lighter neck tension, and finding a seating depth and tuner setting that shoots at a sub.200 level.

I am finding more and more that seating depth is more important than neck tension.
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I found that as neck tension varied so does seating depth...... jim
 
Pete Wass said:
the other day and he said seating pressure didn't matter but exact powder charges and seating depth did. I weigh every charge and measure every seated bullet with Stony point fixture on a caliper. Pull bullets if they are too short by .001" Gotta measure everything all the time :).

Pete
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What is do you mean Exact powder charge,I would bet 95% of short range shooters don't have a scale to measure with +- .010.... Erratic neck tension changes seating depth...... jim
 
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