Do you really want new guy's here?

Very much so. The only reason a new guy gets any guff here is when he shows up to tell the regulars how to do this. Many of the answers you will get here will be from some of the best in the world.
 
And some won't. The idea is to stick around long enough to know the difference.
 
Wilbur said:
What provoked your question?
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I like this site, but it just seems to combative to ask a question out of the box, Most threads contain good info but you have to wade thru all of the bashing and argument's to find it, I know this is where the best hang out, and to learn you need to learn from the best, I just kinda wish the professionalism of the sport would be more prevalent here, you have to admit here lately a new guy looking in would not feel very comfortable here. Just my opinion.


Steve
 
At least you gave your first name.

Most hesitate to give an answer to those that don't ID themself. Also know what part of the country you are in, helps those in that area, invite you out for a personal observation. You will get more direct answers, if you were upfront with your information. Now that's my person opinion, and I have that right. Show us you are committed to buy what's needed to acheive your objective.
 
I don't know what the answer is. The arguements you see are guys that know trying to correct miss information being put out on the board by rookies. I dont think it's a good idea to ban the rookies with their hair brained theories and some just won't take a hint when told that they will learn more by listening than typing.
 
68driftr said:
I like this site, but it just seems to combative to ask a question out of the box, Most threads contain good info but you have to wade thru all of the bashing and argument's to find it, I know this is where the best hang out, and to learn you need to learn from the best, I just kinda wish the professionalism of the sport would be more prevalent here, you have to admit here lately a new guy looking in would not feel very comfortable here. Just my opinion.


Steve
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Steve, I agree 100% with you. It's sad to see the few who continue to make bad choices and never learn. Have been on here for many years and can't believe the lack of respect for one another especially as of late.

Good Luck,

Joe
 
Advice from the Experienced

I am one of those new guys and I am constantly befuddled by the mixed messages I read on this and other websites. For example:

I have been told a .22 will shoot best with a dirty barrel, then I am told to keep the barrel clean. Yesterday, Kimberly and I were visiting Russ Haydon at his Gig Harbor WA shop and he said, "it is easier to repeat a clean barrel than a partly dirty barrel." He also said, "if a rifle will not group well after two or three foulers through a clean barrel, it's got problems."

Now Russ Haydon has a lot of trophys and medals on his wall, so I guess he knows what he is talking about but I bet someone will write back and disagree.
 
Hint, the guys that want to argue with Russ on that one are the ones you want to ignor when they give other advice.
 
Russ gave you good advice. I always tell folks to check the credentials of who telling 'em what! Look up their name on the IR5050, RBA, or ARA, or PSL site. Lots of folks post under alias'es so it's difficult to check out their records.

AND--YES WE WANT NEW GUYS HERE:)!!!!!! Welcome!
 
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i don't know why i hear all this bickering is so bad)chill(, it's the same at the bar, at the coffee shop, the laundrymat...folks is folks, we are gonna gripe, it takes all kinds..it test yer mental toughness...the tough will hang, the weak
will move on...i'm still here after all the tons of abuse.....it takes a village
to raise and idiot and i'm runnin fer mayor:D:D
 
Mr. Drifter, What is it you seek?

You know, 68 drifter first posted on this website at 1:53 this morning with a question provocative that might have been meant as an insult to a lot of people. He acts like he is a new guy who is seeking knowledge about rimfire shooting. On two other posts a little later today he discloses that he has purchased at least four custom benchrest stocks. Something about Mr. 68 just doesn't seem right.

Are we sure that this gentleman is not just trying to stir up more trouble for some reason known only to him?

68 drifter, would you please explain to us who you are and what we can do to help? We welcome new shooters but we don't like to be trifled with. I hope you understand.

Concho Bill
 
DonMatzeder said:
I don't know what the answer is. The arguements you see are guys that know trying to correct miss information being put out on the board by rookies. I dont think it's a good idea to ban the rookies with their hair brained theories and some just won't take a hint when told that they will learn more by listening than typing.
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Don,

“Rookie”, “hair-brained theories”, and “typing” (keyboard shooting)!
Those remarks resemble me....I’m truly offended! LOL

On a more serious note, I have to sadly agree with the newcomers to this site that the line defining civility and respect have been crossed far too often.

“Landy”
Larry Landercasper
 
Bill Wynne said:
You know, 68 drifter first posted on this website at 1:53 this morning with a question provocative that might have been meant as an insult to a lot of people. He acts like he is a new guy who is seeking knowledge about rimfire shooting. On two other posts a little later today he discloses that he has purchased at least four custom benchrest stocks. Something about Mr. 68 just doesn't seem right.

Are we sure that this gentleman is not just trying to stir up more trouble for some reason known only to him?

68 drifter, would you please explain to us who you are and what we can do to help? We welcome new shooters but we don't like to be trifled with. I hope you understand.

Concho Bill
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Bill, My name is Steve and I am From north central Iowa, I have been shooting rimfires for 30 years. My first target rifle was a Win 52B Bull barrel I acquired in 94, In the last two years I had the resources to buy A 64MPR and a Suhl 150-1, And a Sako quad, I have numerous other rimfires as well, I enjoy working on them myself to see what I can do to make them better, sometimes I think outside the box and would like to ask other people questions, But I do not believe this site support's what is not normal thinking! I have been a Millwright for the last 14 years so I have been involved with numerous situations that require me to think outside the box to get the job done, I think the same applies to rimfire shooting, I finally have what I feel is a bench rest setup with my Suhl so I would like to try some matches this year. I will probably see if I can shoot with Brian Voelker at his matches, Those are the only ones I know of close to me.



Thank's Steve
 
68driftr said:
Bill, My name is Steve and I am From north central Iowa, I have been shooting rimfires for 30 years. My first target rifle was a Win 52B Bull barrel I acquired in 94, In the last two years I had the resources to buy A 64MPR and a Suhl 150-1, And a Sako quad, I have numerous other rimfires as well, I enjoy working on them myself to see what I can do to make them better, sometimes I think outside the box and would like to ask other people questions, But I do not believe this site support's what is not normal thinking! I have been a Millwright for the last 14 years so I have been involved with numerous situations that require me to think outside the box to get the job done, I think the same applies to rimfire shooting, I finally have what I feel is a bench rest setup with my Suhl so I would like to try some matches this year. I will probably see if I can shoot with Brian Voelker at his matches, Those are the only ones I know of close to me.



Thank's Steve
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Steve,

You are among friends who will gladly converse with you. Let me assure you there are people here who are at the top of their game and some who have helped other shooters for years and they will give freely of their experience and thoughts. Please remember that they are just telling you what they think and it may not be what you think. We can disagree without being disagreeable.

From time to time we will attract people who will just grate on anyone's nerve. It is good to leave those alone and accept them for what they are.

Frankly, Steve, with your first question, I suspected you might be another one of them but with your cool answer to my last post, I have revised my judgement. Like I said, "You are among friends here".

Concho Bill
 
Steve, there are matches on either side of Minniapolis/StPaul with great folks to shoot with. You can locate them on the ARA map on Dan Killough's web site.
 
Thank you! Bill, please understand my original Post as an outsider looking in for the last two years! Maybe there should be a new guy forum at every site so we can warm up before we jump in, You know get those really dumb first questions out of the way.


Steve
 
Nobody ever get any greaf for asking dumb questions, it's the argueing with the best answer available that gets them in trouble... 8>)
 
A picture of my Suhl.

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