Ammo Costs, etc.. is it time?????

Dick Wright,

I thought that too but after reading what some of our shooting counter parts in England are saying I'm not sure that's the truth anymore. They are paying the same or more for EPS Black and ULT.

Rick Curtis
 
Whistler Boy Ammo Format

CMP at Camp Perry conducts the Whistler Boy Matches. During these smallbore matches the match director distributes enough ammo to each Jr. competitor to complete the course of fire in the Whistler Boy match.(Yes, it is Eley TENEX)
Consider this thought: Benchrest Match Directors distribute $5.00, $7.00 or $11.00 a box (preferably the $5.00/box) to each competitor, enough to complete the course of fire and sighters for a particular class. Whistler Boy shooters are required to use that ammo. Competitors face a DQ if they are found using ammo other than that distributed by match director. One box of 50 rounds per target … that’s $5.00 per discipline. Match director can option to pretest ammo with chronograph to determine approx. average FPS velocity (to see if it matches manufacturers rating). Cost of ammo (not for profit) built into match fees. Competitors carry home their unused allotments. Unlimited class "can bring your own ammo" (BYOA).
What can this achieve:
1. A level field for all competitors regarding ammo. Eliminate ammo differences, focus more on shooters ability
2. A more knowledgeable shooter who knows how to adjust his equipment to the ammo and its muzzle velocity
3. An end to the constant chase of "Elite" ammo and the exorbitant prices that follow.
4. A service to the competitors that ammo will be available at a match.
5. Both a Pro-active and Re-active approach to halt the loss of competitors due to economic increases of ammo and transportation.

I'm not suggesting that you turn the match director into a ammo retailer, ( of which there is almost always someone who buys in bulk for clubs and or has a business interest in firearms and ammo that attends club matches) but the concept definitely has potential to control costs.

win52c
 
Our club is a schuetzen club and shoots a much different venue that you guys but nonetheless, we are considering a PGA .22 match. PGA= Pretty Good Ammo that the club agrees to buy and which everyone has to shoot for that particular match. That's okay but why stop there? Why not make everyone shoot the same rifle too? Not everyone can afford the $X,000 match rifle and scope either.

Brent
 
win52c said:
Consider this thought: Benchrest Match Directors distribute $5.00, $7.00 or $11.00 a box
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Why not have $5.00, $7.00 and $11.00 all available and the match and let each shooter choose how much he/she pays. Then we could see if it's really too expensive.
 
Dick,
I don't think it has much to do with the Euro as England does not use the Euro, they use the Pound Sterling.
SS

Dick Wright said:
The major reason for our increased costs for ammo is the value of the dollar vs the Euro. As the dollar loses value vs the euro it simply takes more of them to buy a case of ammo.

It ain't no pinko-commie plot... blame our politicians.
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Hi,
The reason for the price increase is
THE ECONOMY!!!
2005 the price of 1 EURO was $.80 per dollar
Today it is $1.50 U.S. per 1 Euro
There are European countries who will not accept the U.S. dollar
I am NO econimist BUT SOMETHING IS WRONG!
Tom R:confused:
 
Your probably right, SOMETHING IS WRONG, but still England does not use the Euro. It uses the British Pound, and it takes about $ 1.95 U S to buy one British Pound, add shipping etc. and now you know why Eley is so pricey. We would be a bit better off if they did use the Euro but not by much as it takes about $ 1.45 to buy one Euro.
SS
 
the pound

Single Shot
I really don't think the ratio of dollar to pound is the cause either. When i was in England in 1977 the pound was worth about$1.75 so.... not much difference now?
Colt.45
 
Single Shot said:
Your probably right, SOMETHING IS WRONG, but still England does not use the Euro. It uses the British Pound, and it takes about $ 1.95 U S to buy one British Pound, add shipping etc. and now you know why Eley is so pricey. We would be a bit better off if they did use the Euro but not by much as it takes about $ 1.45 to buy one Euro.
SS
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Except it would take 1.34 Euro to buy a British Pound and 1.95 dollars to buy 1.34 Euro.
 
Cost-of-living hasn't gone up much !!

Gee,I can't understand why everyone is complaining about the increased cost of shooting !
The Federal Government sent me a letter last month,saying that the cost-of-living had only gone up 2.4% last year. I'm going to get another $30 a month in my Social Security check,so I'll be in hog heaven.
I don't know whether to buy 2 extra bricks of Blazers or an extra 7 gallons of diesel fuel ???
Ron
 
Well,
If it's not the currency exchange rate, or the shipping cost, maybe it's just the U S Eley dealers trying to become rich by putting it to the shooters, or it maybe the US Eley distributors putting it to the dealers, or maybe it's the British putting it to the US distributors, or maybe all of the above, and if it's all of the above that's why the price is what it is.
SS
 
Not being an economist it beats me how the British can keep the Pound Sterling so high as related to imports! When I was there a few years back it sure hurt exchanging Dollars for Pounds! A continental breakfast was about $45.00 after the exchange in our London hotel! Yikes! Only Paul McCartney could afford steak and eggs for breakfast!

So should I buy another case if 17 HMR ammo while I can afford it???
 
Yeah, I forgot about...

the pound sterling. However, the same thing applies. Th exchange rate used to be about $1.40 to $1.50 for the pound.
 
All visitors welcome

Anybody want to come over and shoot in England?

Today’s ammo prices from the NSRA (per thousand)

Tenex $338.34
EPS $229.67
Club $147.26

Fancy a nice Remington 700PSS in .308 - $1717.70

How about the diesel to go and collect all this $7.44 per US gallon
 
John Kielly said:
No - your bankers. They were the ones who loaned squillions of dollars to customers who couldn't afford to pay them back to buy overpriced homes that have since dropped in value because your bankers loaned squillions of dollars to customers who couldn't afford to pay them back to buy overpriced homes that have since dropped in value because.....................
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... and anyone who reads knew it was going on and knew we'd have to pay the piper. So while our overpaid government is imposing Sarbanes-Oxley on honest companies and driving up our costs because they failed to keep an eye on the rotten ba...rds stealing from the pension funds, they are ignoring, wink wink, their banker buddies who are using hope and the American dream to milk the poor's little money. Any if you don't already know, a bank auditor couldn't find his shorts using both hands.

As for the middle class folks who thought they were working the system, they put their money down, they threw the dice, they crapped out. If I go to a casino or gamble on a company buying their stock I don't expect anyone to come to my aid if it goes down; they should not either.

Why does our government let companies draw out surplus pension funds in good years as profits? When a bad year or two comes around the funds are often under funded or companies do away with the pensions. One more way to stick it to the small guy. Why haven't the union officials been on top of this? Are they stupid, lazy, or in on the deal?

So, we have our government, both Democrats and Republicans to partially thank for this mess. America is a great county and deserves better. This time I'm voting NO! Vote Ron Paul!!!!
 
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What unfair attitudes you guys have! If the international corporations and special interests have bought our government with campaign contributions why shouldn't they get to run it? :D

If we don't like it we could always get public financing of campaigns and make illegal for candidates and incumbents to take a single cent! I guess we'd rather save that cost and see a hundred times that much go out in "pork and sweetheart contracts" to pay back special interests! Makes sense to me! Why spend money on "state of the art technical educations" that lead our kids directly into skilled jobs when we can spend that money on more prisons when they commit crimes because they are unemployable!

Sound like one of those moderate liberals wrote this! :rolleyes:
 
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