A True Benchrest Scope

A little light reading....you might scroll down to jackie's post. http://benchrest.com/archive/index.php/t-63118.html
We have good scopes, at all price levels, but you should not expect them to function at the highest level and be cheap.
As the sign on the speed shop wall said, "Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?"
I have a Hood scope tester. It has been said that many scopes that were suspect have been found innocent by their use.
 
tim said:
There was no survey. There was a lot of dissatisfaction, in particular with the early LCS offerings and because of his own interest, willingness, and determination, Lou Murdica arranged for Deon optics in Japan to develop the March. I believe at least for the initial units, made by one guy. It was financed by Lou and through this site [the cf side] primarily, he developed an order list for the initial run of first generation March's which sold quickly and ultimately led to Kelbly's stepping in to distribute them exclusively here in the US and we've been off to the races since although largely use in CF with now 3 fixed and 2 variable offerings suitable for bench work if I'm not mistaken.
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Tim, I think you will find Turk Takano was the driving force in getting the prototype built and tested and Lou financed the building the scopes.
 
Pete Wass said:
Nope, I didn't realize instructions existed. Guess I have just been lucky so far, eh? Something I discovered recently with mine: I was having issues with the tension plunger holder backing out. I got to looking it over and discovered that there was the provision for a set screw to keep the "Holder" locked in place but no set screw was present. I have installed one and the little darling locked the holder up nicely. Oversight , I am certain as it was aparent when I installed the screw there had never been one in the hole.
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I bought a used gun that had that mount and Bob mailed me a copy of the instructions at no charge. They are handy if you need to reset the scope.
 
J Pappas said:
Tim, I think you will find Turk Takano was the driving force in getting the prototype built and tested and Lou financed the building the scopes.
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I remember James. I just figured not get too wordy and ultimately, like all good projects, we need large piles of the elusive spendolics. By the way I just stumbled onto you're site.....that's one hell of a rail job, run in the unlimited maple class?

I shoot March's on my PPC's and have one set up so I can put on one of the .22's to shoot UNL, just to see if the mirage improvement, etc is any noticable improvement from most of the Weaver's, LCS, etc. If it ever stops freaking raining up here and we actually get some mirage I'll post up anything I notice.
 
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adamsgt said:
I bought a used gun that had that mount and Bob mailed me a copy of the instructions at no charge. They are handy if you need to reset the scope.
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His mounts seem so simple, It's hard to imaging there would be a "Process" to re-position the scope but that's the difference between common sense and Education, ain't it?
 
Jerry H said:
Number 1 priority is zero change in POA. This has always been the most important criteria for a benchrest scope where the outcome of a match could be determined by a thousanth of an inch at 200 yards.
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Jerry is right and that was as I understand it one of the main reasons for the creation for the March.
HOWEVER since I have not yet started rimfire benchrest this question beggs ignorance.
Since rimfire rifles have so so little recoil is poi much of an issue with the standard BR scopes already on the market?
Or Why would you need the March with its price tag for such a low recoil?
 
I often wonder that

when I see the HUGE Nightforce scopes on RF rifles! I have been using a couple of Weavers I know to be "True" but must admit, I would prefer to have one of my "Frozen " scopes on my Turbo. I think a lot of folks have such scopes because they Can! Heck, why not? Better to enjoy the scope than pay the Nursing Home. I don't think it a good idea, in the case of the Nightforce, to have all that weight that high on the rifle but what do I know?
 
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tim said:
I remember James. I just figured not get too wordy and ultimately, like all good projects, we need large piles of the elusive spendolics. By the way I just stumbled onto you're site.....that's one hell of a rail job, run in the unlimited maple class?

I shoot March's on my PPC's and have one set up so I can put on one of the .22's to shoot UNL, just to see if the mirage improvement, etc is any noticable improvement from most of the Weaver's, LCS, etc. If it ever stops freaking raining up here and we actually get some mirage I'll post up anything I notice.
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Hey, it has never lost a race, only car I ever built that did not have an oil leak, and my granddaughters love to ride in it.
 
Vern said:
Jerry is right and that was as I understand it one of the main reasons for the creation for the March.
HOWEVER since I have not yet started rimfire benchrest this question beggs ignorance.
Since rimfire rifles have so so little recoil is poi much of an issue with the standard BR scopes already on the market?
Or Why would you need the March with its price tag for such a low recoil?
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That's absatutely right, no question. One of the other real important issue people have come to learn was that with the quality of the ED glass they also picked up slight mirage the other optics don't, anotherwords often your scope has it's x-hairs no longer pointing where they started. Now frankly, IMHO it remains to be seen how much/how often this is an issue at 50 and there are few March's used at this game given the cost but it still is going to be interesting what shakes out .
 
Pardon my ignorance but what is ED glass and why is IT responsible for more mirage problems?
 
Andy,
What seems to make March scopes so popular among centerfire benchrest shooters is good optics, but most importantly, most importantly, most importantly their ability to hold zero. --greg
 
Vern said:
Pardon my ignorance but what is ED glass and why is IT responsible for more mirage problems?
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ED glass is Extra low Dispersion glass, as in why the good high power camera lenses cost so much. And It is responsible for letting you see mirage that's already there, the stuff the other scopes don't see. Scopes don't make mirage they see it or they don't
 
Hya Guys,
This is a video I did the other month that shows how mirage moves when looking through a scope. The scope I used was a Sightron 36x42. Andyd
 
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