2012 vfs nationals

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Has a date & location been set yet for the 2012 vfs nationals?
 
You gotta be kidding? I thought the Nationals were to be scheduled during the summer months so the kids could get out and shoot and travel without missing school. This was done early on to "Promote Benchrest" How does a Nationals scheduled in Novemeber Promote Br to our younger generation?

Also wouldn't it make sense to have the VFS Nationals in the same week at the same place as the Hunter Nationals? Score is score isn't it?

IBS 100 and 200 Score Nationals (Hunter, Varmint Hunter, and VFS) will be at Holton, Michigan.
 
pbike said:
You gotta be kidding? I thought the Nationals were to be scheduled during the summer months so the kids could get out and shoot and travel without missing school. This was done early on to "Promote Benchrest" How does a Nationals scheduled in Novemeber Promote Br to our younger generation?

Also wouldn't it make sense to have the VFS Nationals in the same week at the same place as the Hunter Nationals? Score is score isn't it?

IBS 100 and 200 Score Nationals (Hunter, Varmint Hunter, and VFS) will be at Holton, Michigan.
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Very few NBRSA nationals have been held in the summer anymore. They have also had very few to no junior shooters because of it. If you shoot in July like we used to do, you wind up with some pretty miserable temperatures. I've shot the NBRSA nationals at Midland and Kansas City when they were in July. Not very pleasant temperatures. The first one that they had at Raton, I think was in the summer and it was pretty pleasant. Just about all of them anymore though have been the last of September or the first of October. I doubt if you'd have anyone want to shoot a July Nationals in Phoenix or run it either for that matter.
 
Pete Wass said:
When one considers the geographical center of the US is just a bit north of the Black Hills - - - -
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I guess it depends upon what points you use to decide where the center is. Using a line drawn from the Seattle area of Washington to the bottom tip of the pennisula of Florida and another line drawn from the eastern most point of Maine to about San Diego, I come up with a geographical center being pretty close to the 100th Meridian and about 3/4 of the way north into Kansas from the South border of Kansas. Not that it makes any difference. The closest major ranges capable of holding a Nationals at that area are Raton, NM and Kansas City, KS. Raton could handle any event. Kansas City only 100/200 yard matches.
 
Mike Bryant said:
I guess it depends upon what points you use to decide where the center is. Using a line drawn from the Seattle area of Washington to the bottom tip of the pennisula of Florida and another line drawn from the eastern most point of Maine to about San Diego, I come up with a geographical center being pretty close to the 100th Meridian and about 3/4 of the way north into Kansas from the South border of Kansas. Not that it makes any difference. The closest major ranges capable of holding a Nationals at that area are Raton, NM and Kansas City, KS. Raton could handle any event. Kansas City only 100/200 yard matches.
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Actually Mike, the Mill Creek range in the Kansas City area will hold the 100, 200 and 200,300 Score Nationals in 2013. And it will be a 2 Gun Nationals, HBR and VFS. Make your travel plans now.
 
Mike Bryant said:
I guess it depends upon what points you use to decide where the center is. Using a line drawn from the Seattle area of Washington to the bottom tip of the pennisula of Florida and another line drawn from the eastern most point of Maine to about San Diego, I come up with a geographical center being pretty close to the 100th Meridian and about 3/4 of the way north into Kansas from the South border of Kansas. Not that it makes any difference. The closest major ranges capable of holding a Nationals at that area are Raton, NM and Kansas City, KS. Raton could handle any event. Kansas City only 100/200 yard matches.
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Yes Mike, you are correct. An informed source wrote me that the center of the Continental US in in Lebanon, Kansas. Sorry for the bad info. Guess I should learn to less gullible and / or pay more attention to what Plaques say, eh?
 
The NBRSA/IBS split took place sometime before I started shooting benchrest. I understand part of the problem was that John Zinc wanted to donate his range at Skiatook, Oklahoma to the NBRSA with the understanding that it would be designated the National Benchrest range of the NBRSA. Not that it would hold every nationals, but that it was pretty well situated in the center of the United States and would be equally accessible to just about all benchrest shooters across the US. For whatever reason, the IBS was formed and split off from the NBRSA. If designating the John Zinc range as the national benchrest range of the NBRSA was the cause of the split, it wouldn't have been a problem very long. The John Zinc range has been in the bottom of Lake Skiatook at least since the lake was finished in 1984. It wasn't a functioning range that I know of since I started shooting in '82. Wayne Blacketter was listed as the contact person for the Zinc range in the early '80's probably long after the range was gone. Too bad the split ever happened as there aren't enough of us benchrest shooters anyway.
 
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