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Savage Model 12 BVSS .223 shoots extremely to the right. Like we're talking 8+feet at 100yds.
I have ruled out the scope and rings, bases are straight enough, action trued with new .250" recoil lug. The scope is visibly straight with the barrel, the barrel seemed to measure right on center by using a straight edge off of the action and measuring the distance from the outside of the barrel to the straight edge. So, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck but this one sure is not a duck...So, any guesses?
 
Budweiser360 said:
Savage Model 12 BVSS .223 shoots extremely to the right. Like we're talking 8+feet at 100yds.
I have ruled out the scope and rings, bases are straight enough, action trued with new .250" recoil lug. The scope is visibly straight with the barrel, the barrel seemed to measure right on center by using a straight edge off of the action and measuring the distance from the outside of the barrel to the straight edge. So, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck but this one sure is not a duck...So, any guesses?
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Have you tryed bore sighting the rifle
 
I won't actually guess, but...
In the last 9 years I've owned or still own 8 Savage rifles and or actions. Not a single one would work with anything other than Burris Signature Rings. Oh, I could crank the scope all the way to one side and nearly make them work, but none was anywhere near the middle. This also includes a both a Model 112 "J" action and a Model 110 SA that were trued. My guess is that the scope base holes are all drilled slightly off center. Don't know why & can't explain it, but that's been the case with every one of mine.

Almost forgot to mention...they alll shoot great.

Rick
 
I've got 10 Savage rifles and never had a scope mounting/adjusting problems, 6 have Leupold rings and base's, the rest have Talley rings and bases, scopes from Weaver to Schmit & Bender,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

the wind is my friend,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

DD
 
If the crown is okay I would try a different scope.
 
Budweiser360 said:
Savage Model 12 BVSS .223 shoots extremely to the right. Like we're talking 8+feet at 100yds.
I have ruled out the scope and rings, bases are straight enough, action trued with new .250" recoil lug. The scope is visibly straight with the barrel, the barrel seemed to measure right on center by using a straight edge off of the action and measuring the distance from the outside of the barrel to the straight edge. So, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck but this one sure is not a duck...So, any guesses?
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Is the axis of the action threads concentric with the axis of the external action body? Unless the truing included re-cutting the action threads concentric with the bolt raceway (assuming the raceway is concentric with the external action), there may still be misalignment between the barrel and scope.

Is the new recoil lug the same thickness all the way around?

You might try putting a piece of 1" (or 30mm, depending on your scope tube diameter) round stock in the scope rings to visually confirm that the scope and barrel are pointing in the same direction. A three foot long piece of round stock will stick out far enough to give you a pretty good idea of alignment.

If you can set the rifle up in a rest precisely vertical, you can attach a plum bob exactly in the center of the end of the round stock and check scope alignment with the bore as well.

Jim
 
my guess is that savage drilled and tapped the scope mount screw holes wrong.
 
I've got an old 112V that apparently has the scope base holes drilled off to one side. Can't remember which side, but it's 3 feet at 100 yards. Got a newer 12 that doesn't have a problem that I can tell.

Bore sighting, looking through the bore at a large bull at 100 yards and aligning the scope with the bull should get it on the paper if you don't run out of adjustments somewhere. Eight feet off at 100 yds is about as good as a guy could do with a hand held drill motor.
 
I saw a post on here one time that a guy had the 2 piece bases installed in reverse (rear windage base on the front) and had the same problem. :D
 
they are 2 piece bases, but they are not tapered so it wouldnt matter which one was where. I did boresight it at 100yds and I did not get anywhere near paper. I have now tried 3 different scopes, all of which work great on my other rifles.
 
Budweiser360 said:
Savage Model 12 BVSS .223 shoots extremely to the right. Like we're talking 8+feet at 100yds.
I have ruled out the scope and rings, bases are straight enough, action trued with new .250" recoil lug. The scope is visibly straight with the barrel, the barrel seemed to measure right on center by using a straight edge off of the action and measuring the distance from the outside of the barrel to the straight edge. So, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck but this one sure is not a duck...So, any guesses?
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The scope is visibly straight with the barrel, the barrel seemed to measure right on center by using a straight edge off of the action

"seemed" is the operative word here... you are replying on outside rough measurements... perhaps you should be relying on where the bore is pointing. Perhaps you have a crooked bore...

You say you have ruled out the scope and rings... well I suggest you knock the bases to the extremes of the screw holes... the front one to the left and the rear one to the right. I would also finish the crown with a piloted 60 degree chamfer reamer if that has not been done. Until you can sight through the bore and the scope at the same place at 100 yards it is not going to "sight in".

You are going to have to try some fixes and shoot it to get this solved.
 
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8 feet at 100yds..

Please post your solution when you find it..

Did you check your crown like Dennis suggested?

What does the brass look like?

Just to rule it out the trigger execution is normal. It is not operator driven. Please forgive inference.

Is the shooting rest affecting the shot?

Is there evidence of gophers near the target stand? Like moving it when you are not looking.

Has this rifle always shot this way..

Thats three guesses right... ;)
 
The bore is not in the center of the barrel, I measured from the groove to the outside of the barrel and it is about .007" off side to side but it is off the wrong way. The thicker portion is on the right side of the barrel. I"ll be honest, I don't even know what to look for, as for the crown being damaged or no good to begin with.

And no, no gophers moving the stand lol. Good thinking though.
Yes the rifle has always shot this way and it is brand new about 1-2 months ago.
 
Budweiser360 said:
they are 2 piece bases, but they are not tapered so it wouldnt matter which one was where. I did boresight it at 100yds and I did not get anywhere near paper. I have now tried 3 different scopes, all of which work great on my other rifles.
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And yes , it will matter if you have the bases reversed on the receiver, not that you do but as far as locating the problem and checking the crown, look at the crown after firing about 10 rounds or so and see if you have an even pattern on the muzzle like in the pic or something similar.

Have the rings been lapped true to each other???

And my 3rd guess..............maybe the name "Budweiser" has something to do with it?:D;)
 

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Budweiser360 said:
The bore is not in the center of the barrel, I measured from the groove to the outside of the barrel and it is about .007" off side to side but it is off the wrong way. The thicker portion is on the right side of the barrel. I"ll be honest, I don't even know what to look for, as for the crown being damaged or no good to begin with.
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A set of Burris Signature Rings will fix the problem. Been there, done that...oh wait, I already said that. Never mind.

Rick
 
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