wind flag visual chart

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djohns

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I was at a registered score match last weedend and there was a fellow there that had a visual aid chart that showed where to aim for a certain wind condition. I watched him shoot and his system worked very well. I am new to this game so I am looking for things that will help me with reading the wind conditions. He told me that he copied the chart from benchrest central under targets downloads. I have looked but cannot find it. Does anyone know what I am talking about and were to find it. He had down sized it to about a 6 x 8 inch card and it had about 8 to 10 small ten rings with x dots in them and had a dot to show where to hold for that wind condition.
djohns
 
I have what your looking for

Is this it..
 

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You are most likely looking for this chart, it's the most compact, and the easiest to follow.
 

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This one might be a little clearer-

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Question for Mike Paul

Are ypu kidding me? Do you really have the time, between switches, to look down, read the chart, figure out what number goes where, hold and fire before the next switch? You really are good at multi-tasking!!!
 
You know as well as I do-

Dave,
I'm not that good at MT when it comes to shooting-just look at my preformances this year so far! Some of the ranges you and I shoot, you could turn those charts upsidedown and it wouldn't make it any worse. Some split second decisions are still not enough time. You have to use the force-and anticipate!
It could be a help though to memorize those charts. That puts us older folk into deep trouble!

-Mike
 
Just a little jab

You know me well enough to realize I seldom mean anything I say.
Hope to see you soon at a big gun match.
Dave & Sue
 
Dave

I know it was, I was just jabbing you back! See you at Springville in August.

Maybe I can make a flip chart at the firing line for those that want to use it-JK!

-Mike
 
A better idea

Probably a better use for these things (as opposed to trying to use it during a match) would be to make flashcards out of it so you can make adjustment for wind a more unconscious activity.

I'll see what I can cook up sometime today in .pdf form.

-Dave
 
EssentialTremor said:
Probably a better use for these things (as opposed to trying to use it during a match) would be to make flashcards out of it so you can make adjustment for wind a more unconscious activity.
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JK means just kidding. I would never expect anyone to use a flip chart or anythine else that takes someone's eyes of the target. All of my comments on this thread have been in a joking way. A small card could make a lot of sense though.

Maybe I should have used one of those smiley things, but they are too corny for me..:rolleyes: ooppss

-MP
 
Jeez

Are you telling me that now I have to shuffle through a deck of cards to determine where to hold when the condition changes?
 
how about this

Or maybe a little DVD that you could fire up on a portable player! Of course I'd need to keep it under 7 minutes. ;)
 
I have never found those charts to be 100% reliable in the real world. Yes, they make sense in theory and the physics work out in perfect conditions but unfortunately, we don't shoot in perfect conditions 100% of the time. If you have wind breaks (burms, trees, mountains, buildings, roofs, etc.) in the path of the predominate wind, the charts can get totally useless in my experience. Not to mention thermal pockets, back eddys, downdrafts (which wind flags don't pick up) and other phenomenon. In other words, those charts rely on flat, unobstructed, parallel to the ground wind which we don't get to see too often around these parts. And probably not too often most other places either.
 
goodgrouper

Maybe you could make us a chart for the downdrafts etc. that the present chart does not address. Heck, first we need to invent a wind flag that will show the downdrafts and other invisable conditions.
My head is starting to ache.... I think I'll just continue to close my eyes before I fire and wish the bullets in.
 
Craft time!

OK, everybody.

Get out your glue sticks and scissors. Does anyone need left-handed scissors? Good.

Today we're going to be making Wind Chart Flashcards. Remember to cut on the black line, and fold on the dotted line.

Also attached is a cleaned-up version of the 12-section wind chart...which is apparently of dubious value anyway. But hell, new stool-shooters gotta start somewhere.

-dave

Edited to add: The wind direction on the charts represents horizontal winds--not updrafts, etc. The bullet impact is, of course, in the vertical plane. Apparently there was some confusion about that.
 

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Normal deflection patterns of an object are wrong to characterizing a bullet in flight.
One needs to put in account a bullets forward travel, pitch, and spin.
Also taking into account the drag forces on a bullet steer the rear of a bullet (not the nose).

Happy Shooting
Donovan Moran
 
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