alinwa,
Now you got me....kind of a challenge...... Dammit, OK, I'm gonna shoot for half that, oh to be fair, let's say a .35 agg.... I don't even know if I can build a .2 agg gun but a friend has a 6mmBR I built for him on a Savage that is going mid .2's, and a 338 Edge on a nesika of mine is kinda scary, just wollers out the hole around the first shot with 300gr matchkings. I won't claim measurements on that as I didn't measure them, but I was very happy with it.
Love to see folks trying stuff for the CHALLENGE!!
See here's my story...... just ignore it if it's boring.
I went to gunsmithing school in the early 80's and worked in several stores as the 'smith. Thought I was perty good at making fac'try guns shoot good. By about 1985 or so I was of the opinion also that "the PPC/BR rounds aren't MAGIC!!! Who's to say that ANOTHER chambering wouldn't do just as good if it was built to BR Spec??" And ACTIONS??? "Shucks, they're all the same except for lock time and this doesn't matter off the steenking BAGS!! All's the action does is fire the round....it's the BARREL that does the work! I'd built rifles on Mausers, M70's even an 03-A3 Springfield that shot as good as Remingtons!"
By the late 80's I was making enough money to actually start finding out.
I did by this time decide to use the 700 action
"because it's just as good as a custom." First I "accurized" some Remingtons and had them barreled in hotrod chamberings like 22-250 and .243AI, Shilen, Krieger, Hart etc....They shot "REALLY GOOD!" I figgered I was Golden..... These Rem's DID shoot better than the others........ some weird fliers, "BUT IF I DID MY PART they would've all been in the same hole!" IMO the Rem's were consistently better than the others, both mine and my friends', like M70's...
BUT, there were still fliers...... EVERYbody had fliers. Mine were "better" I thought, but not like the pictures in the match reports. Was it BAGS? or was it WIND?? or was it FLINCHING?? or what??? I burned powder by the pound trying load after load after load after.... I still couldn't get those rows of little groups.
I had plateau'd..... I had a Cooper in 22-250, a "6PPC USA" Sako and my Rem's and even a Ruger M77 and a fine looking #1 both in the "PPC USA" configuration. I had little groups on the wall, little groups in my wallet, little groups tacked to the fridge...... But invariably I couldn't reproduce them in front of witnesses
I'd fall on my face EVERY time.
I didn't know why..... the guns SEEMED TO SHOOT!
So I had a real professional gun builder build me a rifle. I had Art Cocchia of Time Precision build me a "Test Platform"....... I got a 22BR barrel, a .243AI barrel, a 6BR barrel and just for kicks my first real 6PPC...... I had him fit a McMillan stock in HBR style with an added 3" wide forend plate. I was The Universal Dude...
... just screw in the appropriate barrel and Get 'Er Done. I got it home and started with the .243AI barrel since I really knew the characteristics of the round by now. And it was ground squirrel time...
It shot real good, better?? maybe than my others. I took it out varminting along with my 700 .243AI and they really knocked 'em down.
As Fall rolled around I figured, "What the Hey, I'll try this .22BR on for size. Maybe it'll be accurate enough to be fun. "It ain't no 22-250, but we'll see how she shoots...."
HOLY friggin' COW BATMAN!!!!!! I DIDN'T SUCK!!!
It was like the sun coming up! DOTS!!! Not all the time but DOTS!! All of a sudden I COULD SEE THE WIND! The 22BR and 6BR were just UNREAL! I could actually show off with them! This went on for almost a year before I decided to try the 6PPC.......... and believe it or not it was BETTER.
So I was desperate, everything pointed to me being WRONG!
I spent the next 8 yrs trying to prove my point:
I tried "identical barrels" but different chamberings, like 6BR and 6PPC and .243AI all same-same.
I've paid to have the SAME BARREL rechambered up to three times!
I've got two barrels from the same production run and taper, one in 6BR and the other in 6PPC....
I tried 6BR's in my Remingtons.... I tried different reamers and spec's.....5 6BR reamers and 5 .243AI reamers...... and wrote notes about my buddies' guns..... We swapped reamers etc trying out stuff.
I kept notebooks full of data and started throwing away my targets because they took up too much space.
I got more guns, custom actions. I learned WHY an action works and why it doesn't. I learned that a Rem 700 CAN BE MADE TO SHOOT but it took a whole lot more than "truing it up"......and it would always be slow. MOST actions will never really shoot "in the 2's" because they can't. The Savage Revolution started, BECAUSE it's built like a Remington, even has some "better" features..... but in the end, it's CHEAPER to just buy a custom action. Which is all getting away from the initial point.
And I could go on, but it's boring
And I DO believe that with proper work you will probably get a 6BR down to .35" on a M70 action, 'specially a push-feeder..... but it's gonna' take some WORK! And you'll probably end up with a single shot. And it'll ONLY do this well with a 6BR or 22BR, and ONLY with light loads. You'll never explore the accuracy nodes over 3250fps in the 6BR...... but yes it'll shoot pretty good, just not like a 700!
I've got a 700 with the fully functioning mag still in place that will shoot DOTS......It also cost almost a thousand bucks to set up.....
I guess what I'm saying is BRAVO! for trying. It will be an adventure.....I've spent tens of thousands of dollars to prove the Big Boys wrong. And found out that THEY WERE RIGHT! (It took me a long time to accept that DUHHH!, they've already been there and done that!)
LOL
al
