Suggestions for low recoil cal.

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This may be wrong location for question but I am thinking of rebarreling a ruger MKII to get my wife started in trying out some bench shooting. Any suggestions on a good round with low recoil. Current setup is the short action, light sporter, in .243. A newbie at this myself just getting into things and reworking my Rem 700 in 308 and taking her along at a local range she wants to give it a try. Other than needing low recoil, she requests a wood stock. so not want to dig to far into cash flow for a start or let me try it set up I have been looking at the Boyds stocks.

the round would also be used for some possible deer or varmit outtings. Would some like the 260 Rem, 257 Roberts be of low enough recoil using factor ammo for starters?

would appreciate any and all suggestions.

Ron
 
The 6 BR would be my pick. With a 1-12 twist you can load a 95 grain bullet for deer and get ~3000 fps and have great accuracy. The only 'down side' to it would be feeding from a magazine might be a problem but if she can shoot then simply use it as a single shot. A competent shooter only needs one shot anyway. It would deliver superb accuracy with low recoil, long barrel life and will make a fantastic varmint cartridge.
 
Suggestion for low recoil Cal

So whats wrong with a 243 for a starter Gun? A little more Recoil than a 6BR without the price tag of a new Barrel,Stock,Trigger.??? If The Recoil is still to much Try the 17Teens 221.222.223. in factory Cal.Not wanting to discourage a custom GUN!!!!!!!!!!! They always out Gun a Factory------Except the new Savage Guns!! Don't get a better gun for her than you Have!!!!!!!!!!.She will beat you every time.And RUB IT IN.Ha Ha Ps Nothing wrong with starting her off with a 22 for some real cheap Practice and a lot of gun control ! Have Fun Those who play together STAY TOGETHER!!!

Richard
 
all thanks for replies.

MColeman, I had looked at the 6BR but I am not into reloading as of yet. still have a lot to learn and digest just getting into this myself.

Butch, yes I want to keep within factory loads for now. but that 270PPC sounds interesting.

R peoble, I purchased the gun used in the 243 light sporter. stock and metal in real good looking condition on outside. gun was shot hard and alot from what I can see/figure and most likely never cleaned or cleaned well. after further inspection of original stock is it is either twisted to the left in the forearm or the action was not inletted straight with channel. which ever is the case, barrel rides with slight pressure on left side and the upward forearm pressure point. Which could be corrected with bedding if I opt to use the original light/slim stock. barrel is toast, well in my opinion. has a lot of pits and rough spots. tried a light bore hand lapping but bore is very rough.

been doing the 22's off and on for a few years now.

thanks,
Ron
 
Ron
The least expensive option would be to try different brands of 243 ammo and see if you can improve on accuracy.
If you really want to rebarrel it and shoot factory ammo I would look seriously at the 6.5 Creedmoor cartridge.
James
 
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Ron,

It might be less expensive to pick up a Stevens in 223. Women often get spooked by the recoil of the very first shot. My wife shot pistols for a number of years before trying a rifle bigger than a 22 rimfire. The first center fire rifle she shot was a 6PPC. She shot one shot, got mad at me and wouldn't touch it for almost a year. The only way I could get her to shoot a rifle again was to set her at the bench with a 15 pound 17 Rem. After seeing that the gun didn't move, she would shoot it. She probably shot more than 500 rounds out of it before she she would try the 6PPC again. The only reason she wanted to give the 6PPC another try is because she wanted more accuracy. Well, now she just accepts the recoil and now shoots a 30BR at IBS Score matches. However, she does wear a recoil pad (Past makes one specific for women that goes under the shirt).
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try a Savage in .223 Remington with one of these heavy wooden long range benchrest stocks to keep recoil down: http://www.sharpshootersupply.com/ in a color she likes ... maybe something to match her shoes. Women like those kind of things. I'm serious. Use a little psychology. If you let her pick out the color, she'll feel like it's her rifle and hers alone. Get her to buy into the selection process and she is apt to continue shooting. There is plenty of 223 factory ammo out there. Black Hills seems to have the best. Art
 
This may be wrong location for question the round would also be used for some possible deer or varmit outtings. Would some like the 260 Rem, 257 Roberts be of low enough recoil using factor ammo for starters?

would appreciate any and all suggestions.

Ron

Two suggestions, new shooters, especially women and children are more shaken by the boom than the kick. Start them out using earplugs and shooting muffs combined. (stress good eye protection also)

As to low recoil and the fact you do not want to reload, consider Remington Managed Recoil ammunition. Much less felt recoil and just about as much performance. http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/centerfire/managed-Recoil.asp
 
Two suggestions, new shooters, especially women and children are more shaken by the boom than the kick.

I gotta agree with both Adrian and JerryS...depending on age, the kick can definitely get them, but if they haven't been around shooting, the boom can get them too...Adrian and I started Shane on a 22LR and moved him to a 223. His OLDER brother got spooked a bit by the boom of the 223 and wanted to see his younger brother shoot it before he'd step up and give it a shot...Both have shot my 30BR and while Shane (12 now) won't shoot it in a match, Ty will and Shane is waiting on the final repairs to his bolt on his "new" 30...Many thanks to JerryR and Dave Apple as without their help, it would still be a 6PPC!

I gotta agree with Art too in that getting the person involved in the decision gives them a feeling of ownership that will make them WANT to shoot it...

The boys and I have yet to convince my wife to take a shot, but we're still working on it!

Tom
 
If benchrest shooting is really the big issue, then another choice might be better, but the .243 is a nice field rifle for most women. I'd think about sticking with the .243 and go with the lightest load you can find! My wife shot a 6MM Remington Model 600 (same bullets) for years and had fun with jackrabbits! She shot it very well without a problem.

Better yet, I think you should save the money on changing rifles and buy some reloading equipment with what you save. (If you don't reload) Then you can load a very mild load with a light bullet and it will be a good choice. A 75 grain bullet about 3000 FPS would probably be a good place to start. You've got a good "one rifle" choice for all around hunting, rabbits to light deer! I guess it depends on your wife! I've got pictures of jackrabbits my wife shot that looked like small dogs! :)
 
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Low Recoil

I would get her a 7mm-08 with Federal 150 Grain Speer Hot Core. My 13 year old Grandson is taking that to Africa for a plains game hunt.
 
I started my niece off with a 22 shooting gophers..when she decided she would give deer a try I cut back a 6mm rem ruger #1 for her and added a decent recoil pad . The fit of the gun is very important with smaller shooters. She weighs about 80lbs...patience is a huge must when shooting with new shooters and making sure they are comfortable with the whole situation when target shooting and field shooting. It payed off and she did a perfect shot at 160 yrds on a nice buck.
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