Semi glue in bedding

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Higbean

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I was reading an article discussing a semi glue in process in addition to pillar and glass bedding. The article mentioned a product called "Soft Seal" by CRC. I came across another mention of two stage bedding in an article by Bill Meyers. I would like to try it but I am having a hard time finding Soft Seal locally. Is there an alternative I could find locally? If so, can you give me some tips on it's use?
 
GordonE said:
Must be about the same as "Semi Pregnant"
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LOL

Yeah it sounds kinda wierd calling it semi glue in, but that is what I have heard it called.

Nobody has ever played around with a secondary bedding process? I kinda find that hard to believe. What have you guys tried?
 
Hig
The way a good job is done with pillars. Get the pillars to the right height and epoxy them in the stock. Put in bedding let it dry. Remove some rough it up all over add some more. If you have any voids. remove a little from the whole surface and do a skim coat. This could be called two step or three step. It don't make much sense to put something soft in there for bedding.
 
Semi glued

Your terminology is absolutely correct. I personally own 4 myers guns and they are semi-glued. I'm sorry I simply shoot and know very little about the gunsmithing involved in bedding and securing actions to stocks. I can tell you that the semi-glued in process works and works well.

Good Luck with your pursuits and Have a Happy Holiday Season.
 
Thanks for the replies fellas. I have a 54 in a Stith stock that is bedded well, I just heard about this and would like to play with it a little to see if I could see any gains. I know Meyers does something similar but won't say what he uses. I just figured someone around here would know or have a guess as to what he uses.
 
J B Weld

I used a thin layer of JB Weld and it realy helped. Make sure you use a good release agent and don't over do the JB's.
 
I have best luck with a product called Devcon but its pretty permanent ..
SST
 
I used Devcon for the initial bedding and it worked out great. From what I understand all bedding materials can shrink. I don't see how but apparently they can. The article I read stated that a thin layer of Soft Seal should be applied to the action and let sit for fifteen minutes or until it starts to set up like peanut butter. Tighten her down like you normally would and leave her be for a day or so. Removal requires a 5 lb pull.
 
Looking back at my posts above I think I might not have explained well enough.

The bedding is done. The rifle shoots darn good. This process is done between the existing bedding and the action to semi permanently stick the action into the bedding. I am positive my bedding is done right. I am just trying to fine tune things.
 
Hig
Your Devcon shrinks less than 1/2 percent per volume. A thin final coat shrinks very little. Of coures you could find a product between Crazy Glue and Gorilla Glue and call it Semi Glue.
 
Higbean,
You are correct about Bill Myers using a pillar-bedded semi-glue-in method of bedding his rifles. He built one for me last year and told me this was how my gun is bedded, but not what he used to do it

...as is mentioned in the AccurateShooter.com article about Joe Friedrich's guns built by Bill,

...Then comes the second stage of the bedding job. After removing the barreled action, Bill waxes the action and screws (to allow the barreled action to be removed in the future). Then he applies a thin coat of "Myers' Mystery Adhesive" and re-installs the action. The end result, according to Bill, is a pillar-bedded "semi glue-in" connection that mates the action perfectly to the stock. This also provides a tight seal that solvents and oils can't penetrate. When asked to reveal his "Mystery Adhesive", Bill chuckled and said "Now I can't give away all my secrets you know."

I think you are getting close with the SoftSeal product ... or possibly some of the other CRC products.


Gordon - doesn't Crazy Glue + Gorilla Glue = Monkey Madness?

Best,
Michael
 
Soft Seal

I received an answer from CRC this morning, and they said Soft Seal is not sold in the US under that name. Try checking your suppliers for a CRC product called SP-400. That's what they call Soft Seal in the US.
 
Thank You Fred J! I thought something was fishy when the only cans I could find were in New Zealand LOL.
 
Subtitutes

In the process of trying to locate these CRC Products, I have been offered numerous subtitutes;
PROCYON Corrosion Inhibitor -LPS
LPS-3 -LPS Not sure this will actually work.
Unfortionately, suppliers located in my area, still can't supply.
3M Spray Adhesive was also suggested as an alternitive. Not sure about that one. It's like asking an X-Burger Flipper how to fix your car. Dah!!!!!!!
 
What is wrong with Brownell's Accra-Glass? This stuff is specificaly made for bedding stocks. You can use it and seperate the action from the stock, or you can just leave it glued in. Almost all my competition rifles are bedded with this product except the ones where the rules won't allow it.
Dale McClure
 
Nothing

Dale:
I've used JB Weld with great results, it's just the spray method is less apt to permantly weld the action to the stock. Only a very thin film is required in the secondary method and so much easier and less clean up. Tape off where you don't want it , spray, remove tape and install action, tighten bedding screws, and let it set for three days before shooting. Hope you had a Merry Christmas.
 
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