My brand new 6ppc will be here on saturday. This has me thinking about what scope would be best for me to put on the new rifle. The rifle was built with a Leupold 45x in mind. However i am not quite sure i can swing the 1000 bucks to purchase this scope. I can afford a weaver or a sightron, or similar. I also wonder how those screw on boosters are? Are they worth the trouble? It seems to me i read somewhere that the weavers exit pupil is to small for a booster? Just really need some direction as to what to do. I dont have enough personal experience to make a sound choice. If the Leupold competition is the only way to go, i will make it happen. I can be very creative when necessary. Otherwise i will just purchase a weaver or sightron and possibly a booster. I did some reading on this subject here and it seems everyone is having one type of conversion done or another. Doesn'T anyone make a target scope right from the start? I can understand a conversation as a bit of insurance though. Thanks Lee
scope for my new ppc
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captbill
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I am told that the March scopes are the only ones that will not shift POA. I have owned and had good luck with Leupold, Weaver and Sightron. Honstly I think its a crap shoot, if you get a good one you are ok for somtime, but they all we go at some point.Leupold does have a realy good warranty. I currently shoot a Sightron on my 30br.
I am told that the March scopes are the only ones that will not shift POA. I have owned and had good luck with Leupold, Weaver and Sightron. Honstly I think its a crap shoot, if you get a good one you are ok for somtime, but they all we go at some point.Leupold does have a realy good warranty. I currently shoot a Sightron on my 30br.
Kent Harshman
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Give consideration to this...
...http://www.benchrest.com/cgi-bin/cl...esults_format=long&db_id=4828&query=retrieval
Call the seller and make certain that there are no marks on the lens surfaces, and that no alterations have been made to the scope. Your rifle will be a couple of ounces light, but no big deal. When you raise some additional funds, you'll be able to resell this one for most, if not all, of what you have in it, and buy a 45X. If you don't trust it for some reason, as soon as you get it, send it to Leupold to be gone over...
...http://www.benchrest.com/cgi-bin/cl...esults_format=long&db_id=4828&query=retrieval
Call the seller and make certain that there are no marks on the lens surfaces, and that no alterations have been made to the scope. Your rifle will be a couple of ounces light, but no big deal. When you raise some additional funds, you'll be able to resell this one for most, if not all, of what you have in it, and buy a 45X. If you don't trust it for some reason, as soon as you get it, send it to Leupold to be gone over...
Dan H
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Dick Grosbier
Club Coordinator
The Weaver is the most bang for your buck and currently the most reasonably priced NEW scope. As suggested previously older Leupold 36 BRD's are also very good. Either one will be capable of being resold for most of your money.
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abintx
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Lee ...
Purchase the Weaver T-36. I've got two, and when mirage is on the rise you'll be glad you did. DON'T Boost it.
Here's why:
TARGET SCOPES from 6mmBR.com
Exit Pupil: Given objectives (front lens elements) of equal size, the more magnification the scope, the smaller the exit pupil. Remember that the exit pupil, a tiny circle of light, must deliver ALL the optical data your eye receives. Bigger is better by far.
Too small an exit pupil will make a good scope dim and hard to use.
That's why we advise against boosting the Weaver T-36 or the 36X Sightron.
With respective 40mm and 42mm objectives, the exit pupil becomes too small when they are boosted beyond 36x.
Purchase the Weaver T-36. I've got two, and when mirage is on the rise you'll be glad you did. DON'T Boost it.
Here's why:
TARGET SCOPES from 6mmBR.com
Exit Pupil: Given objectives (front lens elements) of equal size, the more magnification the scope, the smaller the exit pupil. Remember that the exit pupil, a tiny circle of light, must deliver ALL the optical data your eye receives. Bigger is better by far.
Too small an exit pupil will make a good scope dim and hard to use.
That's why we advise against boosting the Weaver T-36 or the 36X Sightron.
With respective 40mm and 42mm objectives, the exit pupil becomes too small when they are boosted beyond 36x.
Scopes
I have a boosted Weaver/ Siebert at 45x, I like it a lot. Especially at 200. I also own a Sightron w/pins > it works fine.
I believe the pinning makes an almost bullet proof scope. I'll probably get flamed for that statement, but it is what I believe to be true right now. I'm on a budget so I don't have the $2400 for a March or I would own one. The glass is not quite as good in the Weavers and Sightrons but they do work just fine.
MAC
I have a boosted Weaver/ Siebert at 45x, I like it a lot. Especially at 200. I also own a Sightron w/pins > it works fine.
I believe the pinning makes an almost bullet proof scope. I'll probably get flamed for that statement, but it is what I believe to be true right now. I'm on a budget so I don't have the $2400 for a March or I would own one. The glass is not quite as good in the Weavers and Sightrons but they do work just fine.
MAC
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jdy
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skeetlee e-mail me i have a nice scope
skeetlee
Drop me a e-mail i have a nice scope 4 sale i will explain in e-mail & send pics if you want.
Jdy
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skeetlee
Drop me a e-mail i have a nice scope 4 sale i will explain in e-mail & send pics if you want.
Jdy
mjyoung@usadig.com
jackie schmidt
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Scopes
The best unaltered design out there, (in my opinion), is a used 36X Leupold, either the BR or BR-D. They will cost $500+ used, but you can probably turn around and sell it later for the same amount if you decide to go to something like a March or Competition Series Leupold. Plus, the things only weigh about 16 ounces.
Heck, I have had a lot of scopes apart, and the 36x Leupold might still be the best design of all. By that, I mean the way the erector tube assembly is mounted inside the scope body. I still cannot figure out why Leupold quit making them.
Don't forget, you can buy a used Leupold, send it staright to Leupold, and they wil take it apart andl check it out. That's a good deal........jackie
Back when I was taking apart and freezing scopes, I saw some other brands, (I call them the "universal Japanese design), that had some serious problems. Some even right out of the brand new box. With them, it is a crap shoot.
......jackie
The best unaltered design out there, (in my opinion), is a used 36X Leupold, either the BR or BR-D. They will cost $500+ used, but you can probably turn around and sell it later for the same amount if you decide to go to something like a March or Competition Series Leupold. Plus, the things only weigh about 16 ounces.
Heck, I have had a lot of scopes apart, and the 36x Leupold might still be the best design of all. By that, I mean the way the erector tube assembly is mounted inside the scope body. I still cannot figure out why Leupold quit making them.
Don't forget, you can buy a used Leupold, send it staright to Leupold, and they wil take it apart andl check it out. That's a good deal........jackie
Back when I was taking apart and freezing scopes, I saw some other brands, (I call them the "universal Japanese design), that had some serious problems. Some even right out of the brand new box. With them, it is a crap shoot.
......jackie
jackie schmidt
New member
Skeet
I have had both apart. Not much difference in the things that really count as it sits atop a Benchrest Rifle.
True, the reticle is mounted different, and the erector tube is reversed from one to the other. But, the all important gimble joint is pretty much the same. The front objective works the same, (actually a good design if assembled correctly).
That is the key. If you get a good one, it will probably give you top notch service. But, as I said, I have taken brand new ones apart that had serious issues.Think if some Shooter would have mounted one of these, and spent the better part of the season trying to make two bullets touch.
One thing I would not do is put either atop a Rifle with much more recoil than a 30BR. The spherical surfaces that form the gimble joint are extremely light in construction. Over time,it will become compromised.
That is why Burris made their little 6x HBR Scope with a massive gimble ball joint. Best I have ever seen.........jackie
I have had both apart. Not much difference in the things that really count as it sits atop a Benchrest Rifle.
True, the reticle is mounted different, and the erector tube is reversed from one to the other. But, the all important gimble joint is pretty much the same. The front objective works the same, (actually a good design if assembled correctly).
That is the key. If you get a good one, it will probably give you top notch service. But, as I said, I have taken brand new ones apart that had serious issues.Think if some Shooter would have mounted one of these, and spent the better part of the season trying to make two bullets touch.
One thing I would not do is put either atop a Rifle with much more recoil than a 30BR. The spherical surfaces that form the gimble joint are extremely light in construction. Over time,it will become compromised.
That is why Burris made their little 6x HBR Scope with a massive gimble ball joint. Best I have ever seen.........jackie