Scope advice???

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Jackson~in~GA

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Guys, I am trying to put together a rifle to start out shooting in some bechrest matches, and wanted your opinions. What power range scope will I need for short range benchrest? Could someone recommend a scope to look for, something decent quality wise that I can still afford. Thanks in advance for info you can off.
 
36X min

Look for a 36X or more. Go for a quality brand with a good rep for service.

The words "cry once" fit here very well.
 
I'd like to see where a Weaver t-36 retails for over 800 dollars?...

Anyway 36 and above is good for short range BR, I have many 36's, most Leupold, 1 Weaver, and a 45x45 comp series Leupold... I wish more of them were the 45X comp series. I get my Leupolds used online, BR Central Classifieds... Leupolds warranty is awesome.

Paul
 
I would say at this time your best choice for a decent scope at a decent price is a T36 Weaver, as to MSRP of $800 I can believe that. I would never pay that and I doubt anybody ever would its just advertising.
 
Out of sheer bloody mindedness I shot my first match with an 8>32 Tasco. It had no negative effect on my agg I assure you :p I had a Weaver 36 for the next match.
 
Thanks guys for the advice, I am going to order a Weaver 36 sometime in the next few weeks. I need to order a base and rings as well. Anyone care to offer some advice on those?
 
Forget about Weaver their warranty policy is horrible.:mad:
Get a Sightron, fully transferable warranty and if ever there is a problem they will take care of it.:cool:
James
 
I have a Leupold 36x, an old Tasco 36x (Japan), two Weaver 36x, and had a Sightron 36. I have tested these scopes side by side late in the evening. I would give the nod to the Leupold by a very slight margin, but the cross hairs are so very thin....Next down the line was the Two Weavers, one with FCH and one with just the FCH with dot. Liked them both. Then I had (probably an early Sightron 36) The optices were not ever close to the old Tasco. I experimented with the Tasco in that I froze the internals. These are very rugged scopes. However the good ones were built so long ago that the lens coatings are not up to present standards, but still a very good scope, much more that what is commonly given them. I am sure the new Sightrons are very much better than the one I hade, as I have a Sightron 6-24 on a varmit rifle that has very good optics. However the new sightrons are getting close to the Leupold in price. Both my benchrest rifles have the Weavers on them. One is fixed and setting in a Buky's mount. The other is waiting on tests to determine which is best, the Leupold or the Weaver as the Leupold is a few oz lighgter than the Weaver and I am fighting weight on this rifle. JMHO......Donald
 
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This is my first post and im greener than the moderaters teeth but what do you guys call short range. im playing around again playing around with a 308 and am looking for something similar good scope fair price. my 3x9 hunting scope went by the way side about the 10th shot and i relized i needed something more powerful 36 seems exstreem for short range but my short range is 200 yards? 3x9 is good for hunting. btw i like the weaver t36
good price too!!

yes, no facts only please

my opinion is i like nightforce
fact is its too exspensive :cool:
 
I am calling short range 100-300yds, but target shooting and hunting are two completely different animals as far as scopes go. Deer hunting I routinely make shots in the 300-400 yard range, and I don't own a scope on my hunting rifles over 10x and usually they stay on 6X all the time. However when hunting I'm trying to hit a 10" vital area and not a small bullseye. I can't imagine target shooting with one of my hunting scopes, yet I couldn't imagine hunting with a 36X. Question is are you looking for a hunting scope or a target scope?
 
Great Art,

You were able to find the highest price on the planet from 4 years ago!

What is more realistic is to say that the Weavers go for just over $400 dollars. Because you can advertise whatever price you want (It retails for around $843.00.), but if you want a scope to go it has to be priced for the market.

By the way, when you buy Lobster at a restarant and the menu reads "Market Price" what is that? Is it the highest price they can imagine, or is it the price that customers have been willing to pay recently like stocks?

Paul
 
Paul:

Not 4 years ago. 12 years ago. $843 is of course only a point of reference. As you recall, the guntest.com folks used quite a few in their comparative article. People like retail points of reference so they can say: "See how much I saved." "See how smart I am, I found the best price." Good Shooting!
 
Short range - out to 200/300 yards

tmoore59 said:
This is my first post and im greener than the moderaters teeth but what do you guys call short range. im playing around again playing around with a 308 and am looking for something similar good scope fair price. my 3x9 hunting scope went by the way side about the 10th shot and i relized i needed something more powerful 36 seems exstreem for short range but my short range is 200 yards? 3x9 is good for hunting. btw i like the weaver t36
good price too!!

yes, no facts only please

my opinion is i like nightforce
fact is its too exspensive :cool:
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And...I'm a little sensitive about those green teeth.....
 
scope rings

jackson-in-georgia: I would suggest you consider using the Burris Signature Zee rings, available for Weaver or standard bases. Not only will you not leave ring marks on your scope tube,( may happen even if you lap the conventional rings), but you have the ability to use the off-set ring kit to keep your windage & elevation adjustments, and erector tube, at, or very close to center. Since the nylon rings grip the scope tube firmly, over-tightening the ring screws ( and stripping?) is also not a problem. The only kind I've bought for the last few years.:)
 
One thing to remember is in this modern world, companies are bought & sold like, well, any other 2-year disposable items. It is all about branding.

So while I don't know much for sure, the Weaver's of the mid 1990s are not the Weaver's of today. Whether or not the internals are the same, I dunno. They are made in Japan, probably to the specification of "Weaver." Whether or not the materials, assembly techniques, etc. have changed, no one knows. For sure their repair service has changed, and not for the better.

As far as I know, Leupold still retains control over more than their brand.

I do use Weavers. They have all been fine, except for the one that quit on me. I suppose I could have it frozen, always an option with any scope.

I wouldn't worry over much about brightness. We don't shoot benchrest at dawn or dusk. Having sdaid that, some people feel the new Leupold's clarity is better when the mirage is running. I dunno, doesn't make sense to me, but optics is all voodoo to me too.

As to the rings, I use Kelbly on short-range rifles, because of the weight. I do use the Burris Z-rings on a couple long-range rifles; they are fine, a bit ugly perhaps, but they are also heavy. If you want the Z-rings (best price probably Brownells with your smith discount), weigh them first.

With all those words, Wilbur's post (#2) gave about as much *information* as we know for sure.
 
My favorite rings - -

Are made by Stiller's Precision. His design is superb and he uses Torx head screws. I assume he will sell them seperately from an action. I have some of them that came with actions I have purchased and they have never slipped; ever. I only wish they were a bit taller; like 1/2" or more taller.

The burris rings are heavy if weight is a consideration. I have a set and like the idea of them . I was warned by a nationally known Gunmaker that they caused POI movement. I can't refute it nor would I. I am only passing on what I heard said.
 
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