Reloader 10X powder

Bob Kingsbury said:
My cans of Re 10x says oct o2 lot 25059
Is this the first lot or a very early one
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This was the lot Charles E was saying Jeff Summers shot. I ended up with the rest of that jug (about 4#). When I wrote Ben about it, he replied;


""The lot number of your powder is 25059. This lot was shipped to us in
2002 and the size was 6800 lbs. The first "2" indicates the year. .........At any rate,
thanks for your interest in our powder and keep me posted.

Ben Amonette
Consumer Service Manager""

This was the dirty lot. I shot about 2# of it at normal velocities, about 3300-3325 and other than leaving a black coating, it shot just as well as the other 4 lots I have. As to the black coating, if you don't bore scope it you will never know it is there, IMO.

The big issue here was, again IMO, with this 10x you could easily shoot in the 3550-3575 range where the then hot load for VV133 was about 3350-3425. When we shot it at that increased velocity it did eat on the barrel. Once again proving there is no free lunch....a stimulus package maybe, but not a free lunch.
 
I remember something about the decoppering agent Jerry. The lot numbers I had were '02 25059 was the oldest one and the '03 was 25118. The 118 was supposed to be the newer and better stuff if that was possible. You get get some incredible velocities with this stuff. I thought my chrono was going nuts the first few rounds I shot over it.

Joe Hynes
 
liljoe said:
I remember something about the decoppering agent Jerry. The lot numbers I had were '02 25059 was the oldest one and the '03 was 25118. The 118 was supposed to be the newer and better stuff if that was possible. You get get some incredible velocities with this stuff. I thought my chrono was going nuts the first few rounds I shot over it.

Joe Hynes
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According to Ben Amonette the first digit is the year, he never did say what the other numbers were. There is a month and day and shift on the printing too. This is just a packaging date. (Packages at Radford).

On the powder up through about 2007 the data was stamped on the side of the black jug in a smeared yellow and was hard to read. I notice on the latest packaging that the date, shift and lot# are clearly printed on the label itself.

Notes from Amonette about lot numbers;

""The lot number of your powder is 25059. This lot was shipped to us in
2002 and the size was 6800 lbs. The first "2" indicates the year. ""

""The lot number on your cans are
65089 and it was packed here on Nov 8, 2006, shift 2. Thanks for
sending the picture. ""

""The difference in the two lots is only in the amount of decoppering agent. The formulation is proprietary, but the only difference you may notice will be in cleanliness. Ballistically they are tested to the same standard. Unfortunately, there is no such thing as a powder that has no variation from lot to lot. Keep me posted on how your testing proceeds. ""

Ben is correct here also. As far as I know, no one is making powder with cotton as the cellulose source--too expensive. The last one to do that was Norma. Using wood as the cellulose source is why the lot to lot variations happen.
 
I was under the impression that Vhit used cotton for their cellulose. Seems I read that somewhere. Anyone know for sure?
 
Donald said:
I was under the impression that Vhit used cotton for their cellulose. Seems I read that somewhere. Anyone know for sure?
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Donald, you are absolutely correct. I wasn't aware anyone was making smokeless powder from cotton. I wonder, are there others now using cotton?

From the Vihtavuori web site;

""Vihtavuori has been manufacturing propellants in Finland for 80 years. Their complete product line of powders satisfies every need for ammunition, from .22 rimfire through largest artillery. All Vihtavuori powders are made using nitro-cellulose produced from cotton linters in their own NC plant. ""
 
Jerry

I have Searched the Vihtivouri web site and cannot find that
there powders are made from cotton, Am I missing something.
It does seem that there are lot variations in VV powders
 
My two cents worth

I was wondering why it took so long to clean my 204 Ruger XR-100. I normally push wet patches thru the bore until the patches come out mostly free of carbon before I use a brush. In my other guns this takes 4 or 5 patches. With the 204 it takes 3 times that many! Unfortunately, my 204 likes Rel 10X and I must have the old stuff (I bought it in Dec 2006).
 
Jackie

When did they clean up or fix the 10X? I purchased some about two years ago and have no idea if it burns clean or not. I shot about 2 groups with it through the 30 and it looked promising (mid ones), but I paid no attention to whether it was dirty or not. I hope mine is the clean stuff.

Michael
 
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