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hulk
Guest
Has anyone tried a different scale with this unit? A touch better quality? Thanks.
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Mike Marcelli
Guest
I check all the charges I throw with the Chargemaster with a mg scale (1 mg = .02gn) . Most of the charges are within .1 gn (even though the spec is +/- .1 gr, my experience is that its closer to +/- .04gn) with the powder I use. HOWEVER, there are occasions (1-2 X / 100) where it will throw a charge that's off by .4 gn and the scale doesn't pick up the error. So, I always double check every charge.
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abintx
Guest
Hulk:
I used my ChargeMaster Combo [with the ChargeMaster 1500 Scale] for the very first time today and it worked perfect !!! Out of 100 throws I had two that were one tenth of a grain over. I poured them pack in the hopper and kept charging. 98 were right on. Better than I could do with the old manual method. Saved me lots of time. Technology is FUN FUN FUN !!!
I used my ChargeMaster Combo [with the ChargeMaster 1500 Scale] for the very first time today and it worked perfect !!! Out of 100 throws I had two that were one tenth of a grain over. I poured them pack in the hopper and kept charging. 98 were right on. Better than I could do with the old manual method. Saved me lots of time. Technology is FUN FUN FUN !!!
Dick Grosbier
Club Coordinator
And how are you going to do that ? I do not think you are going to find any other scale that interfaces with it right out of the box.
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abintx
Guest
Hulk:
Dick's absolutely right. Don't forget, power to the ChargeMaster Dispenser is supplied through the Scale and ChargeMaster connection. They're designed to work together.
Dick's absolutely right. Don't forget, power to the ChargeMaster Dispenser is supplied through the Scale and ChargeMaster connection. They're designed to work together.
Pete Wass
Well-known member
I have checked mine - -
Against an Aculab scale I have here as well as a Pocket Scale I picked up and the RCBS reads as well as the other two.
I throw out of two old RCBS measures, depending on the powder I use and power trickle with the Chargemaster. I have found that to be faster than waiting for the machine to cycle.
Against an Aculab scale I have here as well as a Pocket Scale I picked up and the RCBS reads as well as the other two.
I throw out of two old RCBS measures, depending on the powder I use and power trickle with the Chargemaster. I have found that to be faster than waiting for the machine to cycle.
JerrySharrett
Senile Member
Pete, call RCBS tech service. The phone number is on the back of the instruction manual. Don Legg or one of his helpers can talk you through reprogramming the 1500 Chargemaster to make drops faster. Unless you have one of the first ones shipped the rest of them are programmable.
I've been using 2 of them since 2005. They may not be perfect (to 0.002 grains) but they are much closer than you can drop from a Culver type measure.
Jerry Dailey
Southron
"faster than waiting"?
My new model chargemaster is plenty fast enough to reload between relays. Heres how I do it; I use 2 powder pans that are altered to weigh exactly the same. I set the dispencer to dispence automaticly. While I am dumping the powder from the first pan and seating the bullet the next pan has filled and ready to dump etc etc. However, My old RCBS (made by Pact) would be to slow
My new model chargemaster is plenty fast enough to reload between relays. Heres how I do it; I use 2 powder pans that are altered to weigh exactly the same. I set the dispencer to dispence automaticly. While I am dumping the powder from the first pan and seating the bullet the next pan has filled and ready to dump etc etc. However, My old RCBS (made by Pact) would be to slow
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J. Foster
Guest
You have to watch
After using my Chargemaster for 2+ years I have found that it is fairly easy to eliminate those 1 or 2 per 100 over charges. You have to watch the last trickle of powder. Especially with stick powder (133) there are times when there will be a larger than normal pile of powder at the end of the powder tube. Instead of the norman 1-3 sticks of powder dropping, it will be 5-10. When you see this, just dump it back into the powder reservoir and drop the next charge. ALSO, at least on my scale, if I am in doubt about a charge, I can wait after the tone. It will then give me a count of the number of charges thrown and then re-weigh. While the first weight shown will be what you have the scale set for, The re-weigh will have corrected itself. This has been my experience. Jack
After using my Chargemaster for 2+ years I have found that it is fairly easy to eliminate those 1 or 2 per 100 over charges. You have to watch the last trickle of powder. Especially with stick powder (133) there are times when there will be a larger than normal pile of powder at the end of the powder tube. Instead of the norman 1-3 sticks of powder dropping, it will be 5-10. When you see this, just dump it back into the powder reservoir and drop the next charge. ALSO, at least on my scale, if I am in doubt about a charge, I can wait after the tone. It will then give me a count of the number of charges thrown and then re-weigh. While the first weight shown will be what you have the scale set for, The re-weigh will have corrected itself. This has been my experience. Jack
JerrySharrett
Senile Member
Jack, always wait for the second reading. The one after the load counter. The first weight shown is the setting and cutoff. The second weight shown is the feedback from the scale. Per Don Legg @ RCBS.
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Redcrow
Guest
I'm really suprised at this. My POS that I just sold would never throw an accurate charge.
Foster listed in his post how the scale works. Getting the second reading is the only way to know if you have an accurate charge.
ALSO, at least on my scale, if I am in doubt about a charge, I can wait after the tone. It will then give me a count of the number of charges thrown and then re-weigh. While the first weight shown will be what you have the scale set for, The re-weigh will have corrected itself. This has been my experience. Jack
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J. Foster
When I spoke to RCBS about the problem, they wanted "me"to pay for shipping. They sell me an inferior product and then want me to ship it to them to have it fixed or replaced and then told me I would have it back or a new one in about two weeks. What BS.
I got rid of mine and went back to Harrell's. Dial in the clicks, weigh and trickle. The electronic scale just can not keep up with the dispensing on the Chargemaster. Mine would always throw from .1 to .6 over. If you throw a lower weight and then try and trickle in the rest, it would go over your weight most of the time.
As you can tell I do not like the Chargemaster and try to discourage anyone from buying it.
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abintx
Guest
Redcrow:
Electronics are fickle. When you think about it, it's amazing we can get pieces of plastic and metal to talk to us. Every once in a while we get lucky and all the parts work the way they were designed.
Electronics are fickle. When you think about it, it's amazing we can get pieces of plastic and metal to talk to us. Every once in a while we get lucky and all the parts work the way they were designed.
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Pete in Surry
Guest
The freight - - -
It is amazing to me that manufacturers, who sell products that are defective demand that customers pay freight. Most of them do and it is very annoying. I have always felt that makers build in a certain amount of profit for warantee situations so they must be covered for the entire cost of the fix, which certainly, in most cases involves freight. If they don't build it in, they need to re-examne their business plan.
If I were selling a product and had any sense of pride in what I made to sell I certainly would not be dinging people for freight charges to fix up my errors. It's THEIR product, after all, not ours. One would think they would have enough pride in their product to make them right, without additional cost to their customers. Inconvenience alone is enough to have to endure. P.
It is amazing to me that manufacturers, who sell products that are defective demand that customers pay freight. Most of them do and it is very annoying. I have always felt that makers build in a certain amount of profit for warantee situations so they must be covered for the entire cost of the fix, which certainly, in most cases involves freight. If they don't build it in, they need to re-examne their business plan.
If I were selling a product and had any sense of pride in what I made to sell I certainly would not be dinging people for freight charges to fix up my errors. It's THEIR product, after all, not ours. One would think they would have enough pride in their product to make them right, without additional cost to their customers. Inconvenience alone is enough to have to endure. P.
Dick Grosbier
Club Coordinator
I tend to agree with you for the most part but one observation comes to mind I can tell you as a person who has been in customer service all my life a relatively high percentage of units returned for warranty service have nothing wrong with them, this is either people who do not know how to properly operate their piece of equipment. Or they think it does more than it actually does. Another problem is unless all manufacturers handled warranty repairs that way it would put the ones who take the high road at a serious disadvantage. Now what really burns me is a company that knows their product is flawed but ships it anyway deciding to fix it after its sold to a unknowing consumer.
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Gerry Nordmann
Guest
I have been using and enjoying my Chargemaster for almost three yearsnow. I haven't had any problems so far, however if I do - I certainly would not
mind paying the postage to return it for repairs. The Chargemaster is a high
tech piece of equipment that sells at a reasonable price. If they ran exaustive tests on every unit, and used NASA grade components, it would double the price of
every unit. The customers save this way - even if some have to be returned.
I am thankful that we have equipment like this available to us, because the
market is not that large. Badlands
Pete Wass
Well-known member
What I didn't say - -
was sometimes after a conversation about one's problem with a maker they say "Send it to me and I woll fix it". This, to me is an an acknowledgement that there is, in fact a problem. They should say in addition,"I will send you a pick up tag and when you have it, please send the item in. The FIXED item should be returned without an invoice for the shipping and Insurance for the return.. Again, it is their product they should be concerned about the reputation of, not mine. We have spoiled them by paying the shipping costs.
was sometimes after a conversation about one's problem with a maker they say "Send it to me and I woll fix it". This, to me is an an acknowledgement that there is, in fact a problem. They should say in addition,"I will send you a pick up tag and when you have it, please send the item in. The FIXED item should be returned without an invoice for the shipping and Insurance for the return.. Again, it is their product they should be concerned about the reputation of, not mine. We have spoiled them by paying the shipping costs.