Pros and Cons of a Stolle Panda vs a Grizzly II Action

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Fred Nickel

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What are the Pros and Cons of a Stolle Panda vs a Grizzly II Action

Hey guys .... I need some input again ..... the more opinions the better.

What differences do you guys see between a Stolle Panda Action and a Stolle Grizzly II Action both for a 6PPC Light Varmint Rifle? I know that one is aluminum and one is SS but I have no experience with either.

What are the pros, cons, betters, and worses?

Thanks ... Fred
 
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Fred Nickel said:
Hey guys .... I need some input again ..... the more opinions the better.

What differences do you guys see between a Stolle Panda Action and a Stolle Grizzly II Action both for a 6PPC Light Varmint Rifle? I know that one is aluminum and one is SS but I have no experience with either.

What are the pros, cons, betters, and worses?

Thanks ... Fred
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As you probably already know both the Stolle Panda and the Grizzly II are made by Kelblys Inc in Ohio. Top quality.

Functional differences-The Panda has a large rectangular footprint to make gluing into a stock a cinch. That box shape has about 4X as much contact area for the glue to grip as a round action. The Panda also has an integral rail on top that acts as the attachment base for scope rings.

No alignment or bedding problems on mounting your scope since the Kelbly rings are made in pairs to fit without lapping or bedding. Some shooters do insist on lapping the Kelbly rings but I have not yet found a set that didn't fit up well without lapping.

On this type design you can remove the scope and rings as a unit, reinstall them, and still be close to your zero point. Some other actions like the some of the Stillers and a few others also offer an integral rail design for easy and precise scope mounting.

The Grizzly II is a solid one-piece action machined from stainless steel. Like most all round actions, they have more eye appeal than the old boxy Panda. They glue in well and function just as well as the Panda.

On scope mounting with this design, to do a proper job for benchrest requirements, mounting the bolt-on scope bases and bedding the scope rings are a pain but the end result will be just as good ad an integral rail action, if you do it properly. To do a really precision scope mounting job on this type action that requires bolt on bases takes about 2-3 hours of hands-on time and about 2-3 days total time for the entire job since there are at least two epoxy curing delays.

As to the end product, accuracy wise, either one of those actions or several other top quality custom actions will make fine benchrest or varmint shooters.

Kind like a Ford/Chevy, red/blue, pickup truck thing.
 
Hey Jerry,

Here's whats going on behind my post ....

I found a Kelbly Smithed Rifle for Sale .... Brandy New. It's a Stolle Grizzly II Action and the plan is a Krieger 22" 1:14 Twist .262 Neck Chamber. Scope bases already mounted with rings.

Thru some conversation it came up about the larger footprint of the Panda and the "suggestion" of the vibration dampening qualities of the aluminum. I'm sure you already know that I don't have any experience with either one and I was looking for some veteran advice. I know that so much of what people prefer is very much based on their experiences and what equipment they are confident with. Figured I'd ask for as much "help" as I could get.

I just don't want to lay down my money and regret not waiting for a Panda Actioned rifle.

Thanks for the reply ..... Fred
 
If you're thinking of screwing either in, The Griz2 has 3 screws. At least mine does. The only complaint I have on mine is the bolt fluting wants to rust a lot easier than my other actions'.
 
Get a gun

Get a gun, start shooting, it will take awhile before you figure out what you need. You will probably end up with more than one gun, most of us here have more than two bench guns. Practice and learn to read the environment, that will be your biggest challenge.
Take stock in what shooters say that are consistently at the top of the match reports, get someone that shoots competitively to mentor you, it will save much time and money.
Then, have fun learning > its a process!!!!!
 
Fred, BR has weight limits for rifles used.
The Panda weighs 30.5 oz
The Grizzle weighs 34 oz
Therefore you will have to do the math regarding rings, scope, barrel length and diameters etc, to know if you will meet the weight limits for the sport.
If you are not competing, disregard the above and enjoy your new Grizzle rifle.
Centerfire
 
Grizzly II Glue in. Bought used. The 2 previous shooters won a lot of wood. I am just starting.
Like they say. Buy it and get out and shoot. The best way to learn the game.
 
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