Panda

armabill

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I've searched and couldn't find the answer.

Is the Panda action entirely aluminum or does it have an internal steel sleeve that the bolt rides on?

Kelby's web site doesn't mention it in their action descriptions.
 
I've searched and couldn't find the answer.

Is the Panda action entirely aluminum or does it have an internal steel sleeve that the bolt rides on?

Kelby's web site doesn't mention it in their action descriptions.

Approximately 2 inch long steel insert common to barrel threads and bolt front lugs..................Don
 
So the steel bolt rides on aluminum till it almost reaches the barrel ?

If so, wouldn't the aluminum wear faster ?
 
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So the steel bolt rides on aluminum till it almost reaches the barrel ?

If so, wouldn't the aluminum wear faster ?

the steel insert is where the barrel threads into the action. The bold rides in the very hard al action. --greg
 
Bill

The Panda, (or Stolle Panda manufactured by Kelbys),), has been around for a long time, and continually proves to be one of the finest Benchrest Actions available. There are Pandas that have seen thousands of rounds over three decades of service and are still going strong.
The Kelbys have updated their equipment through the years, and have stayed on top of the latest in innovative production standards as well as ideas.
Sure, in theory, the aluminum body will wear faster than a solid steel body. But I feel safe in saying that this is a non issue when it comes to a Rifle dedicated to Benchrest.............jackie
 
Stolle actions (3) I have owned also appear to have a steel insert in rear of action where bolt begins its rearward travel when cammed up to open bolt.
 
Or,....get/find a printed catalog of Kelbly's and you will see/understand the joint/conjunction between the steel insert and the alum receiver.

I will quote some from the catalog...:
"The Panda action pictured here gives a good view of the steel insert used in the thread/locking lug area"

"The rigidity and lightweight characteristics are highly desireable features, a must in today's competitive benchrest rifles. Made entirely of 7075-T651 aircraft grade aluminum and 4140 alloy steel, they insure the optimum in stiffness and durability"

Greg Walley once told me (in 2005) that the steel insert is threaded & steel epoxy glued/bonded to the alum receiver, then they square cut the front face......seb.
 
A picture is worth a thousand words, as they say. I'll have to get their catalog for a better understanding of the action build.

I see now how I was wrong about how the bolt/action operated on the combination of the steel and aluminum.

Thanks guys!
 
I,m sure that rear piece of steel is to help reduce wear and aid in the caming at the rear bridge.
 
Armabill,

Have a look here http://www.kelbly.com/actions.html

The action in the top left of the first picture is the Panda. If you look close at the front face of the action where the barrel will screw in you can see a circle around the threads that is a slightly different colour to the rest of the action. That ring is the steel insert. It is threaded for the barrel and the other end has the locking lug recesses in it. It is pretty much like the front end of a round steel action cut off and threaded externally and screwed into an aluminium body.

As Dick said, where the primary extraction surfaces (the ramp on the action and the root of the bolt handle) touch at the rear of the action there is also a small steel insert about 0.20 round that creates a small area to resist wear of the aluminium.

I had ocassion to need to do a touch up polish on a small area of my Panda and compared to polishing say an aluminimum trigger guard or similar the action polishes up a lot easier, that is to say the aluminium in the action body is pretty darn hard !!

Bryce
 
Jerry Stiller's Viper actions are built the same way. Plus you can get the drop port, which I think is the best thing since sliced bread and store bought beer.
Donald
 
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