Nightforce Problem

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galold

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I just got back from the range and had a problem with my Night force scope. My 6BR is zeroed at 200 yards. After clicking up to 600 yards shooting, then clicking back down to 200 yards (the exact number of clicks) My point of impact was about 6 inches lower. The temperature here this morning was 33 degrees, but would that effect the scope? Has anybody experienced this before?
 
With my Niteforces I would consider that unusual , on the other hand how many shots did you fire at the new 200yd setting ? It may take more than just a couple of shots to get settled in. I wish this were not the case but after a yardage I find change frequently takes a few shots to settle down I have found this to be true on at least a dozen scopes I have owned over the years including 3 of the 12-42 BR's and lots of Leupolds and Weavers.
 
I just spoke with Nightforce, they said it was imposable for the scope to change 6 inches from point of impact, Almost felt like the gentleman didn't believe me. I am going to send it in ,see what happens.
 
Galold
First off as an ex service manager and longtime repairman of many different things I have learned nothing is impossible.

Please just tell me as I am curious how many shots did you make at that final setting.

Dick
 
I fired six shots after returning to my zero. The first bullet went about 6 inches low, the next 5 shots bug holed 4 inches below my zero. This scope is mounted on a predator action with nightforce rings. Everything looks and fills tight.
 
So its actually 4" lower, I agree that is not great, the only problem I have experienced with Night force is when at various times two of my three 12-42's had to have lens rebedded after that they were fine and if that were the problem you were having 5 shots would not go into a bug hole. Had you shot it much at the original 200 yard zero ? By much I guess I would mean 10 shots or more ? I am just wondering was your original zero really correct.
 
In most cases I would question my ability to shoot straight, but today I had two friends that met me at the range. I had three targets at 200 and all three of us were punching the center. I am also confident in my hand loads, I am very particular.
 
May I ask how you clicked down?
Did you go below your 200 yard zero and then click up to zero?
When I am moving anything (this comes from the toolmaker in me) I always try to move the screws in the same direction so I take the play, or backlash, out of them in the same direction every time. It helps me get a more positive and repeatable zero each time.

When I click back down from a longer yardage I always go a few clicks lower and then click up to zero.
 
Ok Galold, now as you made a issue with your scope and sending it back. Will you keep us informed about the issues and how it was corrected. Or do we all trash our nightforces and go to either leupolds or Marches..., I also saw your post on 6br. so are you trolling.
 
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Lew,

good point.

I have about a DOZEN Nightforce scopes, AND anytime I had an issue, NIGHTFORCE handled it post haste.

Their SERVICE is second to none!

I NEVER publicly aired my problems, and never felt the necessity to do so.
 
lew,
I will let you know. And if trolling means trying to gather all the evidence I can before making a decision, then yes.

Edwin D.

Are you saying out of 284 posts you NEVER aired a problem, or used this site for one of it's intended purposes?
I am simply trying to make a intelligent decision about my $1400.00 scope. After all, If you have a dozen you would probably know.
 
Galold, I have several Nightforces and never had a problem. They out perform all others, I don't have a March yet and not one has failed or had a problem. I know Ed. Yes he has a lot and has never mentioned he has had a problem. As a matter of fact there is a post on SnipersHide of someone going down on a quad and had his NF bust a turret and was still usable. He sent it in repaired it and is happy about. I think that the scope wasn't reset back properly and no fault of the scope.
 
Galold,

when I have a potential problem with a product I contact the manufacturer or supplier, NOT the general public.

The manufacturer/supplier is in the position to take care of any perceived problem, NOT the general public.

IF the manufacturer/supplier does not handle the problem as I think they should after ALL efforts have failed, THEN I might involve the general public involved.

HOWEVER, you need to handle your business as you see fit, and I will do the same.

Thanks
 
I agree with Ed. But being a little more blunt then him being from NYC. I will say Don't Air your dirty lanudry in public if you want people to respect your thoughts.
 
I was simply asking for advice not, trying to air any laundry. I never said anything negative about Nightforce. And Ed, Its people like you that give these forums a bad rep. I would bet your , OLD, ornery, and a know it all. I am yong and willing to learn. You have a bad attitude PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO ANY OF MY POSTS. I would only like to talk with positive helpful people. Thanks
 
Galoud,
I believe that these 2 gentlemen are right. If you are looking for info, it was given to you. Deal with the manufacturer.
Butch
 
galold said:
I am yong and willing to learn.
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Well you being young and all, maybe you can learn something from some of the older gentlemen. You might find that wisdom comes with age and you could learn something worthwhile from your elders. You won't get much respect on this forum jumping on here and talking trash about other forum members that have been here a long time. You will also not have to worry about people responding to your posts because everyone will just ignore you. Give it some thought. People are trying to give you sound advice.
 
I absolutely agree with you. I have learned an immense amount of information from this site, and others like it. I look forward to reading forums on this site everyday. ( I NEVER publicly aired my problems, and never felt the necessity to do so.) That was the comment made wile chatting with other members. If you look at every other question asked here, it is about how a problem can be solved. I felt like I was attacked for no reason other than seeking members valuable advice. I fell like I was disrespected by the comment that Ed made. I am not trying to cause any problems , Just seeking advise. I think respect works both ways. Thank you
 
I didn't read any bad mouthing of product bashing going on mate, just a few questions about what appears to be a scope playing up.

I had a Leupold 40X give me problems and said so here, asking advice on what a scope failure looked like in terms of the groups. Everybody was very helpful and polite because it is common knowledge that making Leupold LCS's reliable can at times be a problem. Seems like Nightforce scopes have a more loyal and vocal following here !!

The guys here talk about scope problems, pulling them apart, altering them and even gluing the internals solid all the time, I fail to see what issue anybody could take with your question or subsequent posts. Saying that they have a Leupold that failed and who is the best guy to glue the insides up is more of a criticism of the product than you made !!!

I'd read down to about post 8 and ignore what was said thereafter !!! :D

I think they "read into" your post things that you didn't say or mean rather than take the literal meaning of what you actually typed.

Don't sweat it ............


On a more practical note. I'd doubt that a scope that was shooting good groups would suddenly not return to a proper zero by 4 inches. Sounds dumb but I'd check and double check that you returned to the proper setting. Did you make an adjustment at 600 and reset the dial or something. I'd have to imagine something simple is more likely than a scope problem.

Bryce
 
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Galold,
Yes, the forum is to address problems and to get them solved. Any time you suspect a problem with something purchased, go to the manufacturer or agent that you bought it from first. I think the vast majority of the time they will bend over backward for you.
What if you sold a product and somebody came on the forum with a complaint? You would think people would believe that you have a suspect product. It may or may not be true. You would much rather they took it up with you first.
You'll do ok if you can take advice in the way it was meant and not bow up about it.
Butch
 
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