My windy range!!

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skeetlee

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Not sure this will work but here goes a try anyway. I took a short video with my cell phone this morning at my range. the wind was 25mph+ this early am. Worse than that now, so i decided i was just wasting bullets and powder. Some might remember a post of mine a short time back about not being able to see slight pic up and pushes in this type of wind. I just wanted to show you what i am dealing with here some days. I did get a wind probe and it helps. Sorry you cant see the probe in the video but it is out there and that thing goes from 1 o'clock to 4 o'clock and never holds for more than a second anywhere in between.
I tried to hold the camera in the scope to show the target. My 30Br is a shooting son of a gun but today was tough. I had to dial right around 4min left to get zero this morning. Anyway this is just for fun, i thought you might like to see it. Lee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOX5BWMfMTI

If you will notice i shot this score target three shots per bull and you can see how much the wind has blown the shots. some up some down left. some an inch apart. some spot on. this wind is really difficult as you just dont see the slight changes when the wind is blowing this dam hard. Its fun though. I am happy i have it, and its not like this everyday. Yesterday morning you couldn't buy a breeze until 10 o'clock
 
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Lee,
It would be interesting to see if there was some sort of tail material that would not be blown straight out in that sort of wind, and if there was, if it would be sensitive enough to be useful for seeing minor differences in speed. Perhaps you need to tie a rock to the end of one of your ribbons.:D
 
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Those would be considered very favorable conditions at Reno. ;)

Ray
 
I don't see a problem. Hell, at least it's all blowing the same direction. Try Gallatin or Buck Creek on most any summer afternoon you get that kind of speed, but three directions at the same time @ 200 yds. Sometimes the tails are even blowing straight up. Looks pretty favorable to me.

Rick
 
If you call having your target ripped off the backer board favorable then i guess it is. But yes at least it is blowing in the same direction. the only problem is that you dont know if it is 22mph or 18mph? Anything much above 14mph the tails all look the same. I even have heavier material on my tails and it does help a bit. St Louis is also bad. winds from all directions and even those straight up tails. I get straight up tails on my range to at times. Lee
 
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Lee

All of the responses were meant to be good-natured tongue-in-cheek. Wind is one of those Benchrest subjects where everyone has their own favorite story, and how the wind ALWAYS blows harder at my range/relay/bench that it does at yours. Except for Midland, where it doesn't blow - it sucks. ;)

Now, let me tell you about 1996 in Raton where . . .

Ray
 
Skeet, Are you tails at least 6" long for that wind at home?
There was a thread a while ago about the hanging another windicator which was heavy knotted yarn about 1/2 the way on the bottom of your flag. Seen this extra at St. Louis Benchrest.
Regular tail for 0 to 10-15 mph then the second tail was for 20-40 mph.
I shot over someone else's flags with this dual tail system and it works.
Centerfire
 
skeetlee said:
I did get a wind probe and it helps.
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Try adding weight to the counterweight on your wind probe. Because the drag on the cups is proportional to wind velocity squared, you will need to quadruple the weight to measure double the wind speed.

Cheers,
Keith
 
Before my eyes went south I had my wife braid some yarn into tails about 18-24 inches long. When a regular sail (or spinnaker) cloth tail is standing straight out and whipping the braided tail is about 45° and moving a little. Can't say it helped me out much, because although the wind talked I didn't understand. If that braided yarn tail is standing straight out it's time to go home IMHO.
 
centerfire
I know they were,i was just being sarcastic. It take s quite a bit to get me in a bad mood. Anyway i will see if i can find a pic of the material i am using for my tails. its actually a drop cloth material we bought when painting the kitchen. it works quite well. the flag closet to me in the video is standard ribbon tape. I dont have enough tails made up yet, for all my flags, and i thought i would just set that one out hoping you could see the difference between it and the drop cloth tails but the video didnt show much. I shot the vid with my cell phone. But in all reality even the drop cloth tails were straight out, and i couldn't see any changes. The wind is weird here. It surges, and the surges are only brief and sudden. At least this is how it has been the past couple weeks. The wind always blow hard here, always has.
That particular morning was the worst wind i have had since i started shooting there. Most of the time the wind is about 8 to 15mph and thats not to bad. I thought i had a fella making me a new wind probe but i haven't heard back from him in a couple weeks. he said he had just what i needed and he was going to make it up for me. I dont know the man and i didnt write down his name, as i should have. I have his email but no phone. No biggie i will come up with something else.
you also know fellas any one of you guys are welcome to give me a call and come shoot on my place. On requirements is that you are right handed. I even have a spare room were you can spend the evening if needed. Open invite!!!! Lee

Here is a pic. this material reminds me of my frogg togg rain gear material.
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Wind is a relative thing really. Some places it blows and you need to adjust your thinking on wind flags. This picture was at the range I attended a Silhouette match at.

Roland



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Not good but at least not weird

Years ago there was a BR fraternity in a small town in Oz called Mulgildie. Most days the wind in the morning would blow a constant 3 to 5 MPH from the left to right. Near midday nothing much but lots of mirage. In the afternoon the same as in the morning but from right to left. BR heaven you would think. For seemingly no reason the bullets would not go where the flags indicated. Nor would the same condition according to the flags produce the same displacement. Everyone including some of our best shooters got sick of shooting 1 inch groups. BR is not shot there any more for this reason. Go figure.
Any ranges like that over there ?
Andy.
 
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