Leupold BR 24X AO Reading the Numbers?

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Slowshot

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I recently purchased a Leupold BR 24X Scope. When I got it home, I realized it has the distance scale on both the focus (AO) ring and on the bell. When you turn the AO ring, the two sets of numbers pass by each other with no reference zero anywhere. So, how do you read the distances so that you know where the heck you are focusing? Due to a disability, I cannot look through the scope, while operating the AO ring, so I need repeatable settings.
 
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My Pop had one of those scopes. If my memory serves correct as the numbers pass one another you align the 100yd mark with the 100yd mark. 200yd with the 200yd and so on. If the markings are the same on your scope this should work.
Andy.
 
I have never trusted the numbers on an AO for a focus reference at a specific distance. Not being able to focus the AO while looking through the Scope(Disability) presents a problem. Our eyes are different. That fact pretty much rules out preset numbers on a Scope AO. If you're shooting with a friend, have him/her turn the focus slowly until you're happy with clarity. If you're able to record this setting for a specific distance, it may be repeatable. I have to refocus my scope every time I go to the range and sometimes throughout the day depending on conditions.

I Hope you find a solution.



Glenn
 
Glen's absolutely correct. The 100 yard setting will not always get out the parallax at 100 yards etc,. You have to look through it while you adjust. If physical limitations prevent you from doing that, either have a shooting buddy do it for you or get a scope that has an adjustment you can reach. The new Leupold Comps are very easy to adjust from the sitting position and don't require a lot of strength.
 
I am aware of the limitations in the accuracy of any yardage markings on scopes. I also own a Nikon 6-18X40mm Side Focus scope and can see how much easier it makes dialing out parallax for me.
I spend a lot of time alone at my home range and usually have no one around to asist me. Besides, I am not helpless. I can dial out parallax with a look...twist... look...twist method. I have little trouble keeping my favorite Weaver T-36s dialed in with that method. I do like to use the range markings to get me close.
I was just curious as to how Leupold intended a shooter to use the odd system on the BR 24. I have never seen anything like it before. I have no idea how the markings are intended to be used.
The cost of the side focus Leupolds is a bit daunting, especially after I have read they tend to drift a bit. Having compared a Leupold BR 36X, with my two T 36s, I can see a bit of difference but at 50 or 100 yards it is not going to make me miss the X.
 
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I have no idea how the markings are intended to be used.

My previous post outlined how these markings were supposed to be used. They aren't that confusing each opposing set of numbers are their own index mark.They will probably be close most are off a bit.
Andy.
 
Thanks Andy,

I am not sure how I missed your last post. That's what I wanted to know. I'll give it a try on my Rem. 37 and see how close the markings are to reality.
 
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I use masking tape to mark the settings for focus and parallax. The results often show how far off the factory is with their parallax marks.
 
I just got back to this thread.

I am aware that the scope's range markings are never adequate for precision shooting and that the only way to set parallax is by looking through the scope, while turning the ring and moving your head to see if the crosshairs move against the background. Now I have pretty much given up on scopes with the AO focus ring on the front bell. I have two Nikon and one Zeiss side focus scope currently mounted to three of my rifles. I still have one Leupold BR 36, mounted to my BAT 222 and the BR 24 sitting in my safe. I have sold off all of the rest of my scopes that are not side focus or fixed focus. I would buy Leupold side focus scopes* but they are a bit pricy for me.

Just yesterday, I discovered that Weaver has a new series of side focus target scopes. I have asked (on this site in another thread) for comments from owners of those. If I get good reports, I will buy a couple and sell my two remaining Leupolds. I have owned Weaver T-Series scopes in the past and found them to be very good scopes, with the only drawback for me being the same (reach to the focus ring problem) that I have with my Leupolds, plus a bit less light gathering than Leupolds with the same magnification.

*On a general statement regarding side focus scopes, I have read (Accurate Shooter.com) they are not quite as stable as other scopes, that are otherwise of similar quality. So, I don't really see the advantage for shooters who do not share my particular disability. That is the main reason (besides price) that I have kept my last two Leupolds so far. Kimberly still has a Leupold 6.5-20X40 EFR on her RBA Light Sporter Class rifle. I see no reason to replace that excellent scope.
 
Temperature changes a scope's parallax - some more, some less. Say you're using a silver Leupold 36X...you'll need to adjust a bit every trip, day, all day, etc... So, if it's anything like that, marking the adjustment just gets you close. There's been many a day I shot a bit out of focus to get rid of the parallax - never knowing exactly what I was doing. I got rid of that darn parallax and that's what I was after! Being "in focus" ain't so important for group shooting as long as you can make out where you're aiming and can see where it lands. Clearing it all up is better but I'll be darned if I can tell you why. Prolly just a brain thing. I think folks would be shooting just as well if all scopes were a little bit out of focus but.....I'll just shut up right there.
 
I think the markings on most scopes are put there to make sure we do not hit anything. I have had Weavers where the best setting for 50 yards was half way between 50 and 100 yards, according to the markings. Because I have a disability that makes it impossible for me to reach the AO ring on most scopes, and a budget that rules out the higher priced side focus scopes, it has been pretty frustrating, when changing from say 50-100 yards, or 100-200 yards, if there is no one around to turn the ring for me, as I look through the scope.

For quite a while now, I have been buying up used Nikon Buckmaster and Zeiss Conquest side focus scopes for my rimfire and Ruger No. 1 rifles. Now I have discovered the new Weaver side focus Target scopes and am buying the 36X one for my BAT 222. This will finally free me to adjust all of my scopes with no one else around.
 
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Slow shot,
I have the new weaver 46 power scope and have shot it in 1 match. I like a lot however it is going back to weaver because it has what looks like droplets of i oil on the internal optics. I looked through 4 others at the match and they all had the spots, but mine was the worst of them. The new 1" tubes are $529.00 and the 46 is $799.00.
 
Steelhead1 said:
Slow shot,
I have the new weaver 46 power scope and have shot it in 1 match. I like a lot however it is going back to weaver because it has what looks like droplets of i oil on the internal optics. I looked through 4 others at the match and they all had the spots, but mine was the worst of them. The new 1" tubes are $529.00 and the 46 is $799.00.
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I have paid more for a used Leupold BR 36, so it is worth a try. I cannot say your reply is reassuring. Oil spots, that sure doesn't sound very encouraging at all.
 
Well the scope performed flawlessly, the spots are merely something that occurred during assembly, and will be easy for Weaver to correct. As with any new product, it's a minor problem. It seems to me that you asked a question, and have some pretty good answers, now you can choose how you want handle your problem.
 
Actually, Thanks For The Info.

Steelhead1 said:
Well the scope performed flawlessly, the spots are merely something that occurred during assembly, and will be easy for Weaver to correct. As with any new product, it's a minor problem. It seems to me that you asked a question, and have some pretty good answers, now you can choose how you want handle your problem.
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I have more than a bit of experience with buying 'first year' gear. There is always some revision needed. This is nothing compared to a first year model $13,000 motorcycle I once bought where the transmission could not handle the power under normal operation. I will spare you that long sad story. I am buying the Weaver. I already put in my order. Problem solved.
 
Steelhead1 said:
slow shot, do you shoot short range BR at the range at university place? Nice group of guys to shoot with.
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Yes and No. We moved from Kingston to Tacoma three years ago. I joined TRRC about two years ago. I usually shoot on weekdays to avoid the crowds. I met Jeff the match director through Russ Haydon. I planned to shoot matches last summer. Then, frustrations over dealing with a disappointing front rest and the inability to set parallax for different distances with any target scope that I could afford, caused me to hesitate long enough for health issues to keep me away from the range for nearly a year.

Now, after a year on the waiting list, I have received a SEB NEO rest . The side focus Weaver will solve my parallax adjustment issue. My health has recovered. In January, I will be attending the monthly varmint shooter's dinner in Tacoma that Jeff organizes. I guess I am running out of excuses. In fact, regardless of weather, I plan to start practicing again, at least once a week, starting next Monday.

Are you a member?
 
I am hoping that I will be able to shoot the July 4th weekend match. Trying to combine trip into two matches. I will be restarting the LeGrande VFS&Hunter matches in April thru July.
 
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