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jackie schmidt
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I was up at Tomball all morning, and out with my Grand Daughters tonight, so I just saw your post.
What I do is load Lapua 220 Russian cases with enough 133 or similiar burn rate powder up to the neck shoulder junction, and seat a cheap 22 caiber bullet. I then apply a very thin coat of sizing wax to the body, and fire it in a 6PPC barrel chambered with my chambering reamer. (.269 neck). What comes out is a Factory, non neck turned Lapua 6PPC case, if there was such an animal..
I then trim to length, turn the necks, (a breeze with the .269 neck), load them with a full charge of 133 and what ever 68 grn bullets I have, and fire them in my Rifle. They are now ready to go to the line.
A couple words of caution. Do not use a good barrel for the 22 caliber bullets. I am not sure if they will hurt a good barrel, but it sure won't do it any good. And, when you shoot them at the range, aim somewhere in front of the target, as the bullets are less than stable when fired in a 6mm barrel.......jackie
I was up at Tomball all morning, and out with my Grand Daughters tonight, so I just saw your post.
What I do is load Lapua 220 Russian cases with enough 133 or similiar burn rate powder up to the neck shoulder junction, and seat a cheap 22 caiber bullet. I then apply a very thin coat of sizing wax to the body, and fire it in a 6PPC barrel chambered with my chambering reamer. (.269 neck). What comes out is a Factory, non neck turned Lapua 6PPC case, if there was such an animal..
I then trim to length, turn the necks, (a breeze with the .269 neck), load them with a full charge of 133 and what ever 68 grn bullets I have, and fire them in my Rifle. They are now ready to go to the line.
A couple words of caution. Do not use a good barrel for the 22 caliber bullets. I am not sure if they will hurt a good barrel, but it sure won't do it any good. And, when you shoot them at the range, aim somewhere in front of the target, as the bullets are less than stable when fired in a 6mm barrel.......jackie
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Donald
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22 bullet for fireforming
I pull the lead bullets from 22 rim fire cartridges to use as the bullet in fire forming. Just a light tap to seat them. Can't get much cheaper for a ff bullet...............Donald
PS. Jackie you forgot to include expanding up to 6mm before turning.
I pull the lead bullets from 22 rim fire cartridges to use as the bullet in fire forming. Just a light tap to seat them. Can't get much cheaper for a ff bullet...............Donald
PS. Jackie you forgot to include expanding up to 6mm before turning.
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This is a tried and true method.
I don't know who first developed this method of fire forming brass, but it has been around many years. Richard Milton told me this several years ago and I passed it along to Jackie Schmidt, Boyd Allen and any others who wanted to know a better way to get straight brass with which to work. On the first stage of this method I use a stiff charge of a rifle powder suitable for the .220 Russian. I do nothing to the brass but chamfer the neck to help seat the .22 bullet. After firing in the 6mm barrel, one has to expand the neck slightly....then turn the necks. (I use two different tuners to get to the final thickness desired.) After this turning one loads normal 6PPC loads and fireforms the brass a final time. After this firing, I trim to uniform length and am ready with match-ready brass. Good shooting.... James Mock
I don't know who first developed this method of fire forming brass, but it has been around many years. Richard Milton told me this several years ago and I passed it along to Jackie Schmidt, Boyd Allen and any others who wanted to know a better way to get straight brass with which to work. On the first stage of this method I use a stiff charge of a rifle powder suitable for the .220 Russian. I do nothing to the brass but chamfer the neck to help seat the .22 bullet. After firing in the 6mm barrel, one has to expand the neck slightly....then turn the necks. (I use two different tuners to get to the final thickness desired.) After this turning one loads normal 6PPC loads and fireforms the brass a final time. After this firing, I trim to uniform length and am ready with match-ready brass. Good shooting.... James Mock
jackie schmidt
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Zippy
James Mock turned me on to this quite a while back. The big advantage in blowing out the cases first is you know exactly where the neck shoulder junction is, and can set you turner accordingly.
Also, the cases come out dead straight, so you naturally get nice even cuts at the neck shoulder junction........jackie
James Mock turned me on to this quite a while back. The big advantage in blowing out the cases first is you know exactly where the neck shoulder junction is, and can set you turner accordingly.
Also, the cases come out dead straight, so you naturally get nice even cuts at the neck shoulder junction........jackie
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terry sims
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A word of warning
A word of warning on firing (non jacketed) 22cal lead bullets or 22 pellets in a 6mm barrel. The gas exiting the barrel can be laden with lead vapor!
In addition it will deposit gobs of lead in the bore.
Don’t ask how I know.
Terry Sims
A word of warning on firing (non jacketed) 22cal lead bullets or 22 pellets in a 6mm barrel. The gas exiting the barrel can be laden with lead vapor!
In addition it will deposit gobs of lead in the bore.
Don’t ask how I know.
Terry Sims