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Enjoyed the videos, Wally, and thanks for the second hand smoke filter. I got enough of that at the bowling alley!
Do you plan on doing any barrel/chambering videos?
Have you done any stocks on your mill? How did you find its capability? I am looking for a mill myself, and, like you, I am interested in building accurate rifles and likely some farm equipment repair in the future.
Mike
Do you plan on doing any barrel/chambering videos?
Have you done any stocks on your mill? How did you find its capability? I am looking for a mill myself, and, like you, I am interested in building accurate rifles and likely some farm equipment repair in the future.
Mike
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wallyw
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Thanks for your comments Mike. My current mill is the Grizzly G0704. Bought it last August. Very capable IMO. Work envelope nearly equal to larger mill. Done well on any steel or aluminum jobs I've tackled. Have not done any stocks on it but have bored many holes through hard wood with it. Am sure it would be handy for inletting.
I could use some advice on how to approach barrel chambering/action work. 2008 was my 33rd year as an FFL. In December 2008, during the transition from the Bush administration, I submitted my renewal for FFL. Usually takes about a month. Precisely 30 day after the new regime was inaugurated I received a notice that my FFL would not be renewed. I was a combat Marine in Vietnam. In 1993/1994 I spent 10 months in a VA Hospital due to injuries from that war. I was awarded 100% disability, unfortunately that included Combat Related PTSD.
Never a problem through Clinton/Bush years. The new regime decided that I ,along with too many other vets, would forfeit our FFL and 2nd Amendment rights. A judgment made without a Judge and against any determination made by doctors.
There might be relief from Congress and a new President. meanwhile I have a couple of ideas.
Demonstrate barrel fitting and action blueprinting using a pre-1899 Mauser. Or produce a video explaining my plight, and of so many other Vets regarding gun rights. Then do the demonstrations using a steel tube properly internally threaded etc as a prop.
What do you and others think Mike?
I started doing the videos in able to encourage would be gunsmiths/machinists to get started. Help them understand that one can do some really superb work in a small shop without breaking the bank on equipment. Each of my videos so far has been an attempt to take the mystery out of all the skills needed to be a competent machinist.
Wally
Butch Lambert
Active member
Did you notice this?
the part that strikes me is the 1/10,000 runout .. in a grizzly lathe, outside of an environmentally controlled toolroom...
the part that strikes me is the 1/10,000 runout .. in a grizzly lathe, outside of an environmentally controlled toolroom...
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wallyw
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Hardly a tool room Butch. However it is over insulated and I keep it at a pretty constant 68 deg due to OA in this aging body
If spindle runout exceeded a couple of tenths I'd be checking my preload and possibly replacing some bearings.
Have you had problems with Grizzly bearings?
WallyW
Butch Lambert
Active member
I've noticed you posted this on numerous forums. A lot of folks have had headstock bearing problems with them. Ask Pat Byrne or do you know him?
I have a 6913 Clausing(14X48) and a 10EE Monarch. I do question the .0001 figure.
I have a 6913 Clausing(14X48) and a 10EE Monarch. I do question the .0001 figure.
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wallyw
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I suspected you noticed Butch since I noticed your insight posted on another forum word for word under another name. But that couldn't have been you since you apparently don't approve of anyone posting on another forum.
A lot? Pat Byrne represents a lot? Out of the thousands of guys happily doing good work on affordable imports?
I'm happy for you Butch. You should be so proud. There are folks unwilling or unable to purchase $15,000 to $25,000 machines. I'll endeavor, in future videos, to zoom in closer on my indicator just for you.
Semper Fi,
WallyW
Butch Lambert
Active member
I suspected you noticed Butch since I noticed your insight posted on another forum word for word under another name. But that couldn't have been you since you apparently don't approve of anyone posting on another forum.
A lot? Pat Byrne represents a lot? Out of the thousands of guys happily doing good work on affordable imports?
I'm happy for you Butch. You should be so proud. There are folks unwilling or unable to purchase $15,000 to $25,000 machines. I'll endeavor, in future videos, to zoom in closer on my indicator just for you.
Semper Fi,
WallyW
If you saw a post from me on another forum my names is the same. I don't post under a different name on other forums. Actually I'm unwilling and unable to spend close to that amount of money also. I know my Monarch 10EE was probably cheaper than your Grizzly.
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wallyw
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I can appreciate where your coming from Butch. My first lathe was a small Atlas an uncle gave me in 1961. Mostly in a box. I was fourteen. Maybe a 6X24. Been in an unheated Colorado shop for too long. Spent several weeks cleaning and adjusting. Had the motor rewound. My dad's buddy made me some replacement gibs. Other than that it was a matter of removing rust and reassembling it. Only accessories I remember were a steady rest, 3Jaw chuck and a milling attachment. Not much but something a gun crazy kid could afford. Something I could practice on while acquiring some skills. Had been reading all that I could find. Primarily Roy Dunlap, Bob Brownell and what I could get from NRA. Had a old Phoenix gunsmith over to check my progress. Pronounced my threading adequate, gave me 250-3000 finish and roughing reamer he had sharpened for me. Said I should put a barrel on my 6.5 X 55 Swede. Located a barrel that I contoured the best I could. Asked him over to watch as I threaded and chambered. My Dad cut up some files for bedding tools. Bought a small set of chisels from Brownells and a semi-inletted stock from Herters.. Looked kind of clubby but was a beauty to me. Gunsmith friend supervised me while I tapped receiver for scope. Very pleased that I could shoot 3 shots into less than 2 inches at 100 yards. Sold that rifle which helped by 3 more surplus Swedish mausers. Each one turned out better than the last.
In the Spring of 1965 I enlisted in the Marine Corps. Spent nearly 5 years in Westpac including 16 months in Vietnam in the 1st Battalion 9 Marines - The Waking Dead. Served until medically discharged in 1975. For three years in the seventies I spent a good part of every year on the rifle team. Match M1s and M-14s. With the supervision of our team armorer (Gunsmith) build a bolt gun for 1000yars. Pre-64 Model 70 with Shilen barrel. Learned a lot from him. Bought a laminated blank, shaped and inletted it. Bedded with Devcon's Plastic Steel. My first project that would shoot into less than a moa.
Semper Fi,
Wallyw
Butch Lambert
Active member
If you saw the item listed below, I copied and pasted it from another forum.
"the part that strikes me is the 1/10,000 runout .. in a grizzly lathe, outside of an environmentally controlled toolroom..."
Not my post or words. I do agree with it though. I grew up a military brat. Most of my family and inlaws are retires. I have a Grandson that was in the Marines. A good friend that recently passed was called Westpac in the forums. One of the best overall gunsmiths that I ever met and I know a bunch. Just want you to know how I stand with Military Personnel.
My main complaint Wally is your post is an advertisement and it isn't in the classifieds. I'm sure it is a decent product for those that need it. As far as Grizzly lathe spindle bearing problems, do a search on the web. Fortunately Shiraz is probably all over the folks in China that makes them for him. I do believe Shiraz is a standup guy.
"the part that strikes me is the 1/10,000 runout .. in a grizzly lathe, outside of an environmentally controlled toolroom..."
Not my post or words. I do agree with it though. I grew up a military brat. Most of my family and inlaws are retires. I have a Grandson that was in the Marines. A good friend that recently passed was called Westpac in the forums. One of the best overall gunsmiths that I ever met and I know a bunch. Just want you to know how I stand with Military Personnel.
My main complaint Wally is your post is an advertisement and it isn't in the classifieds. I'm sure it is a decent product for those that need it. As far as Grizzly lathe spindle bearing problems, do a search on the web. Fortunately Shiraz is probably all over the folks in China that makes them for him. I do believe Shiraz is a standup guy.
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wallyw
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Shiraz is a stand up guy. And he's made it possible for folks of whatever means to afford quality tools.
It was in no way an advertisement. I have no connection with that company. It was very simply how to install a collet chuck. Could have been a Buck, Bison or other. I choose an affordable Chuck only because so many guys cannot afford to spend $1000 for a major brand name. As to your disbelief on the runout that's between you and your ophthalmologist.
Semper Fi,
WallyW
Butch Lambert
Active member
Wally, did you not post the suppliers name and phone number on the youtube.
I guess I give up! Have you thought about what advertising money that you are taking from Wilbur?
I guess I give up! Have you thought about what advertising money that you are taking from Wilbur?
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wallyw
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Couldn't find any definition of "advertising" in the FAQ or any place else. So submitted the question to Wibur. Should I have cleared that with you Butch?
Semper Fi,
WallyW
Butch Lambert
Active member
As said I give up. I don't believe you really care.
JerrySharrett
Senile Member
Great thread Wally!!
Wally thank you for taking the time to post your video here, I enjoyed it. Very relevant to me as I'm in the market for a collet setup, I want mine to be jackable though, I may have to make it
I have no idea why Butch is all up in your face but I don't do "other forums" so.....???
Welcome to this forum, we like folks willing and able to share their expertise.
And Butch Lambert has shared plenty info with me, helped me out for no gain and shared his valuable time. More than twice't.
Thank you Butch
Thank you Wally
al
I have no idea why Butch is all up in your face but I don't do "other forums" so.....???
Welcome to this forum, we like folks willing and able to share their expertise.
And Butch Lambert has shared plenty info with me, helped me out for no gain and shared his valuable time. More than twice't.
Thank you Butch
Thank you Wally
al
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wallyw
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Thank you Al.
Received a message from Wilbur this morning. Said the videos were fine.
Received a message from Wilbur this morning. Said the videos were fine.
Wally thank you for taking the time to post your video here, I enjoyed it. Very relevant to me as I'm in the market for a collet setup, I want mine to be jackable though, I may have to make it
I have no idea why Butch is all up in your face but I don't do "other forums" so.....???
Welcome to this forum, we like folks willing and able to share their expertise.
And Butch Lambert has shared plenty info with me, helped me out for no gain and shared his valuable time. More than twice't.
Thank you Butch
Thank you Wally
al
JerrySharrett
Senile Member
Nitpicking the video itself-the guy should be indicating the cone surface of the collet chuck where the collet body snugs up to. As he is showing, using a "precision" rod, he is at the mercy of;
1) the accuracy (cyindricity. concentricity and circularity) of that particular collet.
2) the accuracy in seating (dirt, nicks, any surface imperfections) of his so-called "precision" standard.
1) the accuracy (cyindricity. concentricity and circularity) of that particular collet.
2) the accuracy in seating (dirt, nicks, any surface imperfections) of his so-called "precision" standard.
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wallyw
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Thanks for the "nitpicking" Jerry. In the future I will endeavor to explain what constitutes a stanrdard on their importance. My apologies to any beginners confused by my not doing so.
That's the purpose of using a "so-called 'precision' standard" Jerry. By the way my 0.500" X 14" long mandrel is hardened and precision ground mandrel that was bought years ago specifically for setting up receivers for blueprinting. When not in use it is carefully wrapped and stored in an old felt lined Kennedy. IIRC it was ground to perfection by Dave Kiff. There are no surface imperfections or dirt, nicks. Ergo, a standard.
I guess I could have worried about the chuck and collet before hand. But why? Indicating on the rod or mandrel told me everything needed. If the TIR had not been very close to TIR of my spindle THEN I would know that the the Collet Chuck and /or collet was suspect. AND THEN take corrective action.
I suspect you have standards in your shop. Maybe one and two inch standards for checking mics and calipers? Possibly some 5 -10 gram standards for checking reloading scales.
Semper Fi,
Wallyw