If you had neither...

Wilbur said:
Which would you want first, a tuner or a coned bolt?
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I would prefer a proper tuner, which I believe has the capability to make some non-competitive barrels competitive.

Not everyone agrees, some think a tuner can only achieve accuracy levels attainable by traditional powder/seater tuning methods.

I dont think a cone bolt is anymore competitive than a counter-bore bolt as proven by the Stiller drop port actions, but the cone bolt is much easier to chamber for....................Don
 
A tuner makes the gun...

shoot a little better and more reliably. A coned bolt makes it easier to load same.

If you make me take a choice I will go with shooting better. And I hate an action without a coned bolt.

I want both.

Dick
 
I'll take the coned bolt. Spoon-feeding a Remington 6PPC rounds is something I tired of quickly while shooting the one I experimented with..........I appreciated the customs even more after that experience.

The tuner is just that.............a tuning device. I believe that the issue with most non-competitive barrels lies within the bore itself. I've seen a few that seemed to only want to shoot at a wierd charge/velocity, those few might have improved with a tuner. With that said, they probably would have improved had I cut a little off the muzzle end.

-Dave-:)
 
That's A No Brainer

Or, at least for me it is.
If you have ever watched me shoot, I do not use the actions ramp and coned bolt the wat most shooters do.
When I first started shooting Benchrest, I had a 40x. This required "flipping" the loaded round into the chamber rather than laying it on the ramp and letting the bolt push it in.
I never got out of the habit. I still, whether shooting fast or slow, flip that round all the way in. It is just an instinctive thing now. I don't think it slows me down at all.
So, I will take the tuner. Those that do not use a tuner will naturally say that it is of no consequence, but since I have pretty well proven, to myself, at least, the worth of a good tuner design. I think I will continue to use mine as I have for the past 3 1/2 years.
Dave is right, you cannot make a barrel shoot any "better" with a tuner than with conventional tuning methods. It is simply another way to arrive at the same place.
The only advantage the tuner offers, (in my opinion), is the ability to change the tune instantly, at the line, if the need arises. But that is another discussion.,.........jackie
 
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I'm with Francis and Dave on this one, a coned bolt allows for more rounds fired in a condition, at least the way I shoot. I to started with a remington and seated a few bullets short when trying to get them off quickly and when I tried to do it like Jackie does I closed the bolt on my thumb once. If the gun is shooting good it is all about getting them all in a good condition.
 
One of the best shooting rifle's I've ever owned is as DP Viper -- no coned bolt. I've never had a problem with loading, even though its been a -.100 .22 with a 40 degree shoulder for most of its life.

I haven't made any conclusions respecting a tuner. I'm in the process of doing some testing and will be adding one to the rifle described above. I just screwed a new barrel on the gun, but haven't threaded the muzzle for the tuner yet. I do have a concern with weight and balance issues once the tuner is attached, as the tuner required a larger diameter barrel at the muzzle than I might have used without the tuner -- the gun shot best at around 10 lbs and the addition of the heavier contour barrel and tuner bring the weight up to 10.5 lbs. It may be nose heavy when its all said and done. There's no such thing as a free lunch.

So perhaps neither? We'll see.
 
A coned bolt has no effect whatsoever on accuracy. A coned breech helps feeding. A tuner may be of value in getting the most out of a barrel but it may simply offer the shooter another way to screw things up!
I wouldn't lose any sleep over not having either. As a certified gimp, I can shoot quickly only with a semi auto. As a certified klutz, I may be better off avoiding adjustable anythings. Regards, Bill.
 
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