If velocity is King

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russell m

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I had been shooting a 20 inch barrell in 6ppc. I have just put on my other barrel that came with my gun when I bought it used. The velocity on the 20 inch barrel with 30.8g of 133 was 3400 with slight bolt lift difficulty. My 24 inch barrel runs 3570 with 29.8g of 133 with slight bolt lift difficulty. I am going to re-ck the velocity readings again on a diff chrony. I know most br shooter use 20 & 3/4 inch barrells. If a person can achieve higher velocitys with a longer barrell ,why does the 20 & 3/4 barrel seem to be the barrell of choice.
russell m
 
Russel

It is difficult to make the 10.5 weight with a barrel that is much over 22 inches, especially with a tuner added.
That being said, I believe your "slight bolt lift difficulty" is trying to tell you something..........jackie
 
Russell,

Velocity is not King. A rifles ability to shoot match winning aggregates is King.

- High velocities sometimes produce a really bad flyer. A “flyer” being defined as an agg killing shot.

- Many rifles can only handle a 20 ¾ barrel and still make weight.

- Long barrels make some rifles too nose heavy.

- Remember they don’t give out any trophies for velocity
 
Jackie I kmow it is telling me something. DONT DO THAT ANY MORE!!!!!
I have a load at 28.1g that I shot 11x 150 today. The conditions were good first thing this morning. But still it is encouraging for me. I am working on a load between the 28.1 & the 29.8. May have one at 28.9 that I shot a couple of groups with. Looking forward to the match. I also would like to know if you would help me with a tuner? I have been reading about the Beggs tuner.
russell m.
 
Russell,

I am just new to this stuff but have been doing a lot of homework on loads with regards to what shoots in my rifle and what loads typically work in most rifles. I have a lot to learn about wind reading etc but my rifle seems to shoot pretty well.

As best I can tell it seems pretty common for a typical LV 6PPC with a 68 grain bullet to shoot well in the 29.8 - 30.2 grain range of N133. My rifle likes 29.8 grains with a 68 Ultra and 30.2 with a 66 Ultra seated with a good jam.

It also seems to be that most rifles will also shoot at another load window around 1.2 grains lower, in my case that works out about right and it shoots just as well at around 28.6 - 28.8 grain with the 68's and around 29.0 with the 66's.

It has been my observation, which agrees with the comments of others, that the load in the 30.0 grain range will hold tune and be less fussy to the effects of ambient condition changes than the lighter load will, even though when in tune the lighter load may shoot fully as well.

Bullets with longer bearing surfaces such as those with lower number ogive shapes may build more pressure for a given load when compared to a double radius style bullet like the Ultra's or Bruno 00's. As such these loads may or may not apply and it is obviously wise to start low and work up.

Like I said, I am no expert but 30.8 grains of N133 sounds like a whole lot of powder and like Jackie said, the hard bolt lift is telling you that you are probably producing to much pressure. I've personally used up to 30.4 with a 66 grain Ultra for over 3400fps but wasn't in a big hurry to keep going past there !

Bryce
 
Bryce

It can surprise shooters who do not realize that there can be up to 100 fps difference in velocity of two bullets of the same weight, shooting the exact same powder charge, but the difference being the 0-give and shank dimensions...........jackie
 
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