hunter class magazine

RJM

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For those who have built hunter class rifles, what is the best way to handle the magazine set up?

I'm putting together a varmint-hunter gun on a 700 action. The rules say the mag needs to hold 2 rounds of loaded ammo, so I'm going to mill the edge HBR stock to that depth and shorten the mag box accordingly. Comments?

Regards,
Ron
 
Ron, my advice would be to just totally ignore it. All that statement means, (or has grown to mean), is that the cavity must be big enough to physically hold two rounds. It does not in any way have to be functional.

If you look, alll of the custom actions made for HBR have a cut out in the action bottom, but that is all it is. Just a rectangle shaped hole. The spirit of the rule is so you will not be shooting a "target" action.

Your EDGE HBR Stock is legal right out of the box. And, even if it isn't by the letter of the law, I doubt anybody elses is either..........jackie
 
How about a glue in?

Thanks, Jackie.

Ok, so all I need to do is a 1/2" cut the length of a loaded round & about 1" deep for the "magazine." I don't see anything forbidding a glue-in. Is it ok?
Regards,
Ron
 
Glue-ins are NOT legal in Hunter Class rifles...Rules state the action must be removable fom the stock...




Eddie in Texas
 
No, glue-ins are not allowed in HBR. The barreled action must be easilly removed in the conventional manner.

You do know that there is also a barrel taper restriction. All of the major barrel makers know the proper profile for Hunters Rifles.

I just went and looked at both Sanctioning Bodies rules about glue ins, and the NBRSA specifically states that glue ins are not allowed. The IBS does not use the words "glue in", it states that the barreled action must be able to be removed without destruction of the stock.

Honestly, I do not know how they have ruled on this in the past. I am sure the intent of the rule is to prohibit glue ins, but I am not 100 percent sure on this.

Since you are building for an IBS class, (Varmint Hunter), you best get this right. ........jackie
 
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Thanks, guys

I had read the IBS rule book & missed that. I'm trying to get it right.

Right now the barrel is a take off from a 308 position rifle that I shortened & recontoured to hunter. I rechambered it to 30br. I'll replace it with a new one this summer, and the current one will be a fire form barrel after that.

Regards,
Ron
 
I'm not sure about IBS, but the .30 BR isn't legal for hunter class in the NBRSA. The case capacity has to be the capacity of the .30-30 for some obscure reason. That's why you'll see, .30x47 and .30X46's being shot. The easiest thing to do to get a legal hunter class cartridge would be to neck the 6.5x47 Lapua up to .30.
 
Ron, you don't need the stamped steel mag box, spring or follower. As long as there is a slot cut in the stock that will physically hold two of the rounds you're chambered for....you're in compliance for the IBS rules. On the 700's, a Davidson single shot adapter with some foam under it allows the follower to be moveable, per the rules. It makes it a snap to drop a round in and close the bolt.

The NBRSA rules are a bit different. You don't need a magazine cutout in the stock. Plus, the follower may be glued to the stock..basically the action drops over the glued in follower. The magazine cut in the reciever needs to be big enough to accept the loaded round you're chambered for.

The IBS rules for Hunter and Varmint Hunter class also allow for a bigger barrel than does the NBRSA rulebook.

Those of us lucky enough to live where we can compete in both IBS and NBRSA tournaments build what are essentially a sort of 'hybrid' rig: IBS rules for the mag. cut in the stock....but with the NBRSA Hunter barrel profile. This allows us to compete anywhere w/o issues.

Mike: the IBS has what's called a Varmint Hunter class as well as Hunter. Varmint Hunter is the same as Hunter but w/o the case capacity or caliber restriction...that's why the 30BR's can compete.
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As an aside:

It would be nice to see only one 6 Power class in the IBS (no case capacity or caliber rules). If the NBRSA Hunter competitors would also adopt this common sense idea, both organizations 6 Power programs would be much the better for it.


Good shootin'. :) -Al
 
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The rifle is for the IBS varmint hunter class & I followed their rule when contouring the barrel. I thought it looked a bit big, but it measures right by the IBS.

Mike Suhie puts on a great match at the the Bell City club in CT, just around the corner from where I live. So after almost 3 decades I'm getting back into shooting br matches. I have a heavy varmint 30br for the VFS class and the new gun let me shoot a second match.

That's a good trick with the Davidson's ramp and foam. I'll do exactly that. The scope is my old Lyman 6x with adj objective. Maybe not state of the art today, but then again, I'm not state of the art anymore either.
Regards,
Ron
 
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