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crazyhorse
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...and low shooter was 623 8X...
How do you qualify
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cris
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Best of the Best
If we are to send teams to the World Championships in 2011, we need to have a qualification process. Now, if our best cannot shoot better than 623-8X at 25 meters, so be it. However, our best are capable of much better, so it simply depends on their desire and wherewithal to travel and compete.
I agree 50 yards/meters is a more challenging test, provides a wider experimental platform and will force paradigm shifts in development.
Unfortunately, that is not the game the rest of the world plays or the game that will be played in South Carolina next year. The world plays at 25 meters with their target. For one match, we need to play by their rules.
If we are to send teams to the World Championships in 2011, we need to have a qualification process. Now, if our best cannot shoot better than 623-8X at 25 meters, so be it. However, our best are capable of much better, so it simply depends on their desire and wherewithal to travel and compete.
I agree 50 yards/meters is a more challenging test, provides a wider experimental platform and will force paradigm shifts in development.
Unfortunately, that is not the game the rest of the world plays or the game that will be played in South Carolina next year. The world plays at 25 meters with their target. For one match, we need to play by their rules.
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crazyhorse
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Well, i only posted the low score so those lurking can see full range of recent competition.....
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cris
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More Scores
A full range of scores is an excellent point and should show that all of these shooters have to start somewhere. Thanks.
Výsledky Mistrovství Evropy 2010 - Air Rifle Heavy Varmint Class B
Mistrovství Evropy 2010 - výsledky
Výsledky souteže jednotlivcu
Pořadí Jméno Země Terč 1 Terč 2 Terč 3 Skóre
1 Carl Boswell UK 244 5X 247 11X 245 7X 736 23X
2 Graham Freeman UK 245 3X 244 5X 246 5X 735 13X
3 Stepan Morshchagin RU 246 10X 245 8X 240 4X 731 22X
4 Ron Harding UK 244 7X 241 2X 245 8X 730 18X
5 Alan Grayson UK 242 8X 245 11X 242 6X 729 25X
6 Alexey Pashkov RU 240 3X 246 3X 243 11X 729 17X
7 Alexey Soldatov RU 247 6X 241 4X 241 4X 729 14X
8 Garry Alan Kingaby UK 244 11X 239 8X 245 5X 728 24X
9 Scott Grayson UK 245 8X 241 3X 242 10X 728 21X
10 Robin Brown UK 241 7X 237 5X 241 6X 719 18X
11 Elliott Barker UK 238 5X 242 4X 239 7X 719 16X
12 Jaroslav Buršík CZ 239 9X 236 4X 242 3X 717 16X
13 Josef Havelka CZ 240 3X 242 3X 233 4X 715 10X
14 Carl Richard Hanson UK 242 9X 240 6X 231 2X 713 17X
15 Jake Healey UK 233 2X 230 3X 245 6X 708 11X
16 Paul Barker UK 237 3X 237 3X 220 2X 694 8X
17 Jan Durdak CZ 233 6X 214 1X 215 0X 662 7X
Výsledky souteže junioru
Pořadí Jméno Země Terč 1 Terč 2 Terč 3 Skóre
1 Scott Grayson UK 245 8X 241 3X 242 10X 728 21X
2 Elliott Barker UK 238 5X 242 4X 239 7X 719 16X
3 Jake Healey UK 233 2X 230 3X 245 6X 708 11X
A full range of scores is an excellent point and should show that all of these shooters have to start somewhere. Thanks.
Výsledky Mistrovství Evropy 2010 - Air Rifle Heavy Varmint Class B
Mistrovství Evropy 2010 - výsledky
Výsledky souteže jednotlivcu
Pořadí Jméno Země Terč 1 Terč 2 Terč 3 Skóre
1 Carl Boswell UK 244 5X 247 11X 245 7X 736 23X
2 Graham Freeman UK 245 3X 244 5X 246 5X 735 13X
3 Stepan Morshchagin RU 246 10X 245 8X 240 4X 731 22X
4 Ron Harding UK 244 7X 241 2X 245 8X 730 18X
5 Alan Grayson UK 242 8X 245 11X 242 6X 729 25X
6 Alexey Pashkov RU 240 3X 246 3X 243 11X 729 17X
7 Alexey Soldatov RU 247 6X 241 4X 241 4X 729 14X
8 Garry Alan Kingaby UK 244 11X 239 8X 245 5X 728 24X
9 Scott Grayson UK 245 8X 241 3X 242 10X 728 21X
10 Robin Brown UK 241 7X 237 5X 241 6X 719 18X
11 Elliott Barker UK 238 5X 242 4X 239 7X 719 16X
12 Jaroslav Buršík CZ 239 9X 236 4X 242 3X 717 16X
13 Josef Havelka CZ 240 3X 242 3X 233 4X 715 10X
14 Carl Richard Hanson UK 242 9X 240 6X 231 2X 713 17X
15 Jake Healey UK 233 2X 230 3X 245 6X 708 11X
16 Paul Barker UK 237 3X 237 3X 220 2X 694 8X
17 Jan Durdak CZ 233 6X 214 1X 215 0X 662 7X
Výsledky souteže junioru
Pořadí Jméno Země Terč 1 Terč 2 Terč 3 Skóre
1 Scott Grayson UK 245 8X 241 3X 242 10X 728 21X
2 Elliott Barker UK 238 5X 242 4X 239 7X 719 16X
3 Jake Healey UK 233 2X 230 3X 245 6X 708 11X
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Paul Bendix
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Chris,
The benchrest season for alot of the country has come to an end. So for a lot of the country to qualify durning the winter months would be a hugh disadvantage.
Looking over the scores that we have shot at Holbrook, MA durning the last three years, They have greatly improved. The only match that no one shot over 700 was durning a shoot last year. Pouring rain, cold, wind 30-50 mph with gusts to 75. Had only one score over 240.The winner still had a 694 3X, second 694 2X.
With better weather the top three scores are in the high 730's to low 740's. The last three years have been shot at 25 yards on AGBR targets.
At Pinnacle Mountain the last two shoots David did shoot some WRABF targets at 25 yards, scores were on average 1 point lower with a lot higher X count.
My November 17 shoot will be outdoors at 25 meters also with a 30 min time limit on WRABF targets. Have 9 concrete benches and 6 wooden top benches. So room for 30 shooters or can run three lines.
Paul
The benchrest season for alot of the country has come to an end. So for a lot of the country to qualify durning the winter months would be a hugh disadvantage.
Looking over the scores that we have shot at Holbrook, MA durning the last three years, They have greatly improved. The only match that no one shot over 700 was durning a shoot last year. Pouring rain, cold, wind 30-50 mph with gusts to 75. Had only one score over 240.The winner still had a 694 3X, second 694 2X.
With better weather the top three scores are in the high 730's to low 740's. The last three years have been shot at 25 yards on AGBR targets.
At Pinnacle Mountain the last two shoots David did shoot some WRABF targets at 25 yards, scores were on average 1 point lower with a lot higher X count.
My November 17 shoot will be outdoors at 25 meters also with a 30 min time limit on WRABF targets. Have 9 concrete benches and 6 wooden top benches. So room for 30 shooters or can run three lines.
Paul
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therealld
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Ok, clear enough. Since they are playing 25 meters with 20fpe max in the heaviest class, then thats what we need to play if its to be head to head. Unfortunately, it IS kind late, so for sure it would be nice to see the qualifier regulations ASAP.
So far, I don't recall seeing any scores by US club shooters posted at the official distance on the official targets, but I get the impression they will be somewhat lower, due to the longer range most were shooting this year.. But if there were, we wouldn't really know if they were legal weight, power, yada yada anyhow, I mean for the new rules.
Guess we better get cracking on this.
So far, I don't recall seeing any scores by US club shooters posted at the official distance on the official targets, but I get the impression they will be somewhat lower, due to the longer range most were shooting this year.. But if there were, we wouldn't really know if they were legal weight, power, yada yada anyhow, I mean for the new rules.
Guess we better get cracking on this.
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cris
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.177
They all shoot .177 due to the 20 FPE restriction and laws in certain countries. .22 can be shoot but it takes you down in velocity. With 15.9 gn pellets, that should be around 750 FPS, if my math is correct.
They all shoot .177 due to the 20 FPE restriction and laws in certain countries. .22 can be shoot but it takes you down in velocity. With 15.9 gn pellets, that should be around 750 FPS, if my math is correct.
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lead head
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What is should the FPS be to get 20 fpe with .177 10.3 gr?
DanB
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935 fps.
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crazyhorse
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Are teams limited for competition..?? How many teams can enter from the U.S.??? So in the dark here.....
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cris
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From Bill Coles, a country can have 3 teams of 3 plus 2 alternates per team for a total of 15 competitors per class. Plenty of spots for our best shooters to shoot all types of air rifles.
Bill Collaros
Shoot to Thrill
Sorry guys not ignoring u just been away for 4 days soacking up some sun in Surfers Paradise. A couple of answers to your questions;
It seems .177 is th preferred calibre for accuracy BUT the scoring is done using a .22 scoring guage.
Team Size: Being the host country you should have the largest team, effectively you can have have 15 shoooters per each event, this consists of 3 x 3 person teams plus 6 individuals that qualify also. We could have 2-3 events and classes. Most teams from overseas due to the high costs may only bring 1-2 specialist air rifle shooters and will just use their rimfire shooters to enter the air events as was done in Italy in 2008. The shooters in the Team can win team and individual medals and the individuals can only win individual medals. Individuals still need to qualify in the top 15 to make it.
As Air rifle benchrest grows throughout the world this will change but also the costs involved to just go and shoot one discipline lean it to be usually a combined rimfire/air rifle shooters from visiting teams.
Australia shoot our World Postal Match on Sat 30-102-2010 down in Melbourne, some of us have tooled up and have been practising so here's hoping that the wind gods are kind on the day.
WRABF President
Bill Collaros
It seems .177 is th preferred calibre for accuracy BUT the scoring is done using a .22 scoring guage.
Team Size: Being the host country you should have the largest team, effectively you can have have 15 shoooters per each event, this consists of 3 x 3 person teams plus 6 individuals that qualify also. We could have 2-3 events and classes. Most teams from overseas due to the high costs may only bring 1-2 specialist air rifle shooters and will just use their rimfire shooters to enter the air events as was done in Italy in 2008. The shooters in the Team can win team and individual medals and the individuals can only win individual medals. Individuals still need to qualify in the top 15 to make it.
As Air rifle benchrest grows throughout the world this will change but also the costs involved to just go and shoot one discipline lean it to be usually a combined rimfire/air rifle shooters from visiting teams.
Australia shoot our World Postal Match on Sat 30-102-2010 down in Melbourne, some of us have tooled up and have been practising so here's hoping that the wind gods are kind on the day.
WRABF President
Bill Collaros
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cris
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Good Luck
Bill,
Good luck in the Postals. The USA has some teams entered for matches later this year.
Bill,
Good luck in the Postals. The USA has some teams entered for matches later this year.
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nickswin1
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World Cup Scores 2010
Hi Cris,
Where did you get this score's. That was the results of the Europees only. I did partisipate in the World Cup/EU Champs and the scores inclusing South Africa was:
ID Name Target 1 Target 2 Target 3 Score Place
Points X Points X Points X Points X
UK40 Carl Boswell 244 5 247 11 245 7 736 23 1
UK43 Graham Freeman 245 3 244 5 246 5 735 13 2
RU55 Stepan Morshchagin 246 10 245 8 240 4 731 22 3
UK50 Ron Harding 244 7 241 2 245 8 730 17 4
UK36 Alan Grayson 242 8 245 11 242 6 729 25 5
SA34 Coenie Schoonwinkel 238 4 246 8 245 6 729 18 6
RU52 Alexey Pashkov 240 3 246 3 243 11 729 17 7
RU54 Alexey Soldatov 247 6 241 4 241 4 729 14 8
UK44 Garry Alan Kingaby 244 11 239 8 245 5 728 24 9
UK51 Scott Grayson 245 8 241 3 242 10 728 21 10
UK49 Robin Brown 241 7 237 5 241 6 719 18 11
UK41 Elliott Barker 238 5 242 4 239 7 719 16 12
SA32 Armand Kotze 242 3 236 4 240 5 718 12 13
CZ06 Jaroslav Buršík 239 9 236 4 242 3 717 16 14
SA33 Niekie Van Dyk 234 4 240 6 242 7 716 17 15
SA35 Nick Schoonwinkel 241 6 237 6 237 5 715 17 16
CZ04 Josef Havelka 240 3 242 3 233 4 715 10 17
UK39 Carl Richard Hanson 242 9 240 6 231 2 713 17 19
UK47 Jake Healey 233 2 230 3 245 6 708 11 20
SA31 Rohan Jacobus Roux 231 4 232 3 241 4 704 11 22
UK48 Paul Barker 237 3 237 3 220 2 694 8 23
CZ09 Jan Durdak 233 6 214 1 215 662 7 24
And Juniors
WC juniors
1 SA34 Coenie Schoonwinkel 729 18
2 UK51 Scott Grayson 728 21
3 UK41 Elliott Barker 719 16
4 SA32 Armand Kotze 718 12
5 UK47 Jake Healey 708 11
p.s. All South Africans shot with 12fpe(8.44g pellets at 800f/s) rifles and most Europeans.
Hi Cris,
Where did you get this score's. That was the results of the Europees only. I did partisipate in the World Cup/EU Champs and the scores inclusing South Africa was:
ID Name Target 1 Target 2 Target 3 Score Place
Points X Points X Points X Points X
UK40 Carl Boswell 244 5 247 11 245 7 736 23 1
UK43 Graham Freeman 245 3 244 5 246 5 735 13 2
RU55 Stepan Morshchagin 246 10 245 8 240 4 731 22 3
UK50 Ron Harding 244 7 241 2 245 8 730 17 4
UK36 Alan Grayson 242 8 245 11 242 6 729 25 5
SA34 Coenie Schoonwinkel 238 4 246 8 245 6 729 18 6
RU52 Alexey Pashkov 240 3 246 3 243 11 729 17 7
RU54 Alexey Soldatov 247 6 241 4 241 4 729 14 8
UK44 Garry Alan Kingaby 244 11 239 8 245 5 728 24 9
UK51 Scott Grayson 245 8 241 3 242 10 728 21 10
UK49 Robin Brown 241 7 237 5 241 6 719 18 11
UK41 Elliott Barker 238 5 242 4 239 7 719 16 12
SA32 Armand Kotze 242 3 236 4 240 5 718 12 13
CZ06 Jaroslav Buršík 239 9 236 4 242 3 717 16 14
SA33 Niekie Van Dyk 234 4 240 6 242 7 716 17 15
SA35 Nick Schoonwinkel 241 6 237 6 237 5 715 17 16
CZ04 Josef Havelka 240 3 242 3 233 4 715 10 17
UK39 Carl Richard Hanson 242 9 240 6 231 2 713 17 19
UK47 Jake Healey 233 2 230 3 245 6 708 11 20
SA31 Rohan Jacobus Roux 231 4 232 3 241 4 704 11 22
UK48 Paul Barker 237 3 237 3 220 2 694 8 23
CZ09 Jan Durdak 233 6 214 1 215 662 7 24
And Juniors
WC juniors
1 SA34 Coenie Schoonwinkel 729 18
2 UK51 Scott Grayson 728 21
3 UK41 Elliott Barker 719 16
4 SA32 Armand Kotze 718 12
5 UK47 Jake Healey 708 11
p.s. All South Africans shot with 12fpe(8.44g pellets at 800f/s) rifles and most Europeans.
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