Have you priced a domestic small lathe recently?
The Hardinge toolroom lathes start at about twice the price of the South Bend.
So yes, 7-10x is probably actually understating the situation. Unless you know some manufacturing secret that has escaped the notice of Hardinge and South Bend.
fwiw,
I would concur with the Gentlemen who strongly doubted the 7-10x figure on an American Made Lathe. After Graduating from The Colorado School of Trades I found the toughest task has been finding a lathe that is both appropriate for chambering, threading, and trueing as well as NOT being made in the Eastern Rim...
You mention the price of the Hardinge HLVH. True that machine retails for a little less than $50K for a 9x18" class machine. That said comparing the capabilities of a Hardinge HLV(or a Monarch 10EE) to anything coming from Grizzly or Jet is strictly apple and oranges. The capability of the HLV to hold tolerance is beyond most folks mastery of metrology...(including mine)
Take Vertical Mills for instance. Compare a new Hardinge/Bridgeport Series 1 mill to whatever Enco Imports are available. I happen to be fairly familiiar with this as I took delivery of a New Hardinge/Bridgeport Series One Milling Machine with a Three Axis Newall DRO, Kurt D688 w/swivel base, from MSC in April. Absolutely beautiful machine. Delivered from Atlanta my machine ran slightly less than 3x what a new Enco, or insert name here, Mill with an off brand DRO runs on special for... Delivery charges not included. It took a good while to write the check, however, we have only one manual mill still Made in The United States of America. In no way do I regret the price differential. Nor do I regret buying NEW Hardinge Collets, Herman Schmidt Edge Finders, Interapid Indicators, the EZ-Tram, or any of the dozens of other items that make the mill fully functional...
I will say that if we in this country do not to support what LITTLE INDUSTRY IS ACTUALLY LEFT we will be in sadder shape than we are in the near future...
If LeBlond or whatever American Company made an American Made 14x40 Gear Head lathe and could set it up for 25-30K the check would have been in the mail long ago. I've looked at the HAAS TL-2... Unfortunately we have FEW choices due to folks buying cheaper imports and failing to support domestic industry. That said if someone would build a world class product they would have my business...
Had it not been for the Dollars slide I would have bought a Weiler/Monarch 514. Just cannot see doing enough barrel work to justify a $60K manual lathe. That said I may cross that bridge if something else does not come available...
Respectfully, Matt Garrett
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