Gun Barrel Manufacturing

[Zebra13]

Justin,
I know nothing about these machines, but the writer says the button rifling carves the grooves. I guess he really doesn't know what button rifling is.

Butch,

I caught that too. I share your opinion on the writer.

But I found it interesting cuz' I didn't know anybody was making equipment specific to barrel making...especially button rifling machines. Seems every article I've read on barrel making talks about home made button rifling machines and old Pratt & Whitney deep hole drilling machines...or something like that.

How we got on the topic of flat-screen TV's, I'll never know...

Justin

 

[JerrySharrett]

Article 1 Section 8 of our Constitution does give Congress the power to regulate foreign commerce and to collect duties. Presumably they could use that power to stop imports. How would that improve anything.

Unshackle the most productive people on the planet.

WallyW

Are you serious with the above question? For one thing the Big Box stores, Wally World, etc, would be empty, their shelves bare. No TV from Visio in Communist China, then who would make the next TV sets? How about the RCA plant on North Meridian in Indy.

 

[JerrySharrett]

Butch,

I caught that too. I share your opinion on the writer.

But I found it interesting cuz' I didn't know anybody was making equipment specific to barrel making...especially button rifling machines. Seems every article I've read on barrel making talks about home made button rifling machines and old Pratt & Whitney deep hole drilling machines...or something like that.

How we got on the topic of flat-screen TV's, I'll never know...

Justin

Justin, we (wally and I) did kind-of jerk your thread sideways. But the writer of the link, Mark Albert, has been editor of Modern Machine Shop magazine since Ken Geltleman retired around 1993 or so. He does know some about the machine shop world. As to how a button rifler works, does it not relocate (carve) the metal where the groove is formed? If not, how does the groove appear?

I knew Mark pretty well having chatted with him at the IMTS shows In Chicago several times. I first met him by phone when Ken Gettleman, the then Editor-in-Chief of MMM, came to Kingsport to do an article about yours truly and our CNC/DNC system.

I hope you DO see the link between no tariffs and slave labor wages and instituted tariffs and fair wages??

(You don't really see the link between flat screen TV's and barrel making?)

 

[Zebra13]

Justin, we (wally and I) did kind-of jerk your thread sideways. But the writer of the link, Mark Albert, has been editor of Modern Machine Shop magazine since Ken Geltleman retired around 1993 or so. He does know some about the machine shop world. As to how a button rifler works, does it not relocate (carve) the metal where the groove is formed? If not, how does the groove appear?

I knew Mark pretty well having chatted with him at the IMTS shows In Chicago several times. I first met him by phone when Ken Gettleman, the then Editor-in-Chief of MMM, came to Kingsport to do an article about yours truly and our CNC/DNC system.

I hope you DO see the link between no tariffs and slave labor wages and instituted tariffs and fair wages??

(You don't really see the link between flat screen TV's and barrel making?)

Jerry,

No worries on the sideways thread jack. It happens.

And without resorting to a thesaurus, I don't think "carve" and "relocate" are synonomous. In 1994, I relocated to San Luis Obispo County....I didn't carve. It's called the Witness Relocation Program, not the Witness Recarving Program. I have, however, after a spirited encounter with a bottle of Tullamore Dew, carved up San Luis Obispo County, but as the Statute of Limitations on my actions is yet to expire, I must remain mute on the topic. If the authorities ever found out I was the responsible party, I'd have to...well...relocate. Preferrably to a country without an extradition agreement with the U.S.

Your friend Mark Albert may be the best thing to happen to machining since Tom South Bend, Fred Monarch, and Joe LeBlonde, but it is my humble opinion, and apparently Butch's also, that "carve" is a poor choice of words to describe the actions of the button during the button rifling process. I have heard/read that the button "impresses the rifling", or creates a "negative impression of itself", or "displaces metal outward", or as stated on the Lilja website, "a cold forming process that pushes the metal outward". "Carve" insinuates, at least to me, removal, i.e., "I carved a fishing lure from balsa wood", or "I carved out a steak from that side of beef" (I hope it was a ribeye). A button doesn't remove metal. It moves it. I think "carve" is more descriptive of what happens during the cut rifled process...but why use it when "cut" is right there in the title.

Mr. Albert may know exactly how the button rifling process works...he just used the wrong word to describe it, thereby giving the impression that he doesn't.

And I will not get into the political discussion with you. But I guarantee you wouldn't like my opinion. I'd probably end up on your "Ignore" list with the like-minded Al.

Now let's all run for our Webster's and look-up "carve", "relocate", "impress", and "displace" so we can insert it into the flatscreenTVcommunistChinaConstitutionwherethehellisRCAanywaytariff arguement.

Me...I think I'll go back to work. Yeah...it's gotten that bad.

Justin

 

[alinwa]

"swages" the grooves maybe???

Tricky-tricky-picky process to size those buttons JUUUST so where they properly displace the steel from the grooves, building up the lands without it piling up and bulging or galling!

No "carving" going on at all. Unless you're broaching or single-point cut-rifling.

Al

 

[alinwa]

Al, before you go, I have never mentioned unions. My day job for 40 years was with Eastman Kodak and Eastman Chemical Division who were very very non-union. Besides, I was salary paid and not eligible to partake in unions even if one came by!!!

As to your comment :the fight is here in the streets". What are you going to do, riot like Kiev or Istanbul? Bad idea!!

The fight, as plainly stated by our Constitution, is in Washington, or should be. The US Congress has the SWORN duty to regulate trade and tariffs. In doing that, Congress needs to level the playing field, not by bringing US wages DOWN to third world wages, but to bring US originated jobs back home AND bring the US troops back home.

Protect our Southern borders with the US troops that are now in 180 different countries and 900 foreign military bases. Bring them home and away from the IED's the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld war machine created and let them enjoy a quiet respite in our Sunny South.

And NO I did not vote for Bommy Wommy!! I vote always but not for the Dems or GOP. In the last 22 years my votes have gone to two other Texicans, both initialed "RP"! The first RP made a fool of IBM, made a fool of GM, made a fool of Ayatollah Khomeini and netted $3.5 billion in the process!

About 3-4 years ago I had you on my IGNORE list. Reluctantly I took you off that list. Now I am obliged to IGNORE you again.

Goodby!!!

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Ain't sure

Last time my remarks were taken as "rioting in the streets" was by vicvanb....... before that MrD........

And Sharrett makes three!

LOL

al