Don't Buy Barrels From Knuckleheads

crb

Ray Brooks
Great chambering job. Is this a dull reamer or a loaded up reamer or no cutting fluid or what ?

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WOW, thats ugly. Looks like the reamer loaded up and the chips galled into the chamber wall. I hope the fellow you got that from is not in buisness. If he would send out work like that he won't be for long.
 
...that looks like the part you cut off before setting up to chamber... ugly job...
 
I'm cornfused!! Did you saw the barrel in two at the tenon base and then about half way down the tenon?

You may have just voided the warranty..
 
I'm screwed / stuck with it. Bought it used off another site. I am going to rechamber it to 6mm Beggs. Since it was a 6BR I had to cut off the entire chamber.

Here is the last email I got from the guy that chambered it:

heartburn! I went back to the Itrader feedback you gave on 07-01-2008, it says "accurate description". I have looked at and re-looked at those 2 pictures. Just as I told you on the phone, I only want to do the right thing. I was totally honest in the description of the used barrel that I sold you. You told me on the phone that you had run a patch down the barrel and it was clean. I told you that after I cleaned the barrel before shipping it to you that I looked down the barrel. I did. I was confident that what I was selling was a good clean used barrel. I still believe that! It seems that you would have be able to see into the chamber while it was in your lathe. But that's another part of the deal that has me confused; you did some lathe work on the barrel and modified it. It would seem that you had to clean any chips or residue after you finished the work. I'm confused by how you missed what is pretty easy to see by the picture. I still have a couple of casings from that chamber. I went right away and took a very close look at them, they are absolutely perfect! No marks as should be left from gouging. Also, in the picture of the muzzle, I do see a spot, but I also see alot of copper fouling. My point is that I am making no accusations against you. But you have had the barrel for a month! You have had inspection, and given positive feed back. You have modified the barrel to fit your conversion. You have shot it about 50 times. So I can not give you the money back on the barrel. I know that I sent you a fine used barrel.
 
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Unless it's a used barrel from someone I know, I would never purchase one. Having said that, I would never purchase a used barrel, blanks are just too cheap for me to take a chance.

No doubt the seller needs to raise his standards if to him thats a good used barrel.
 
I'm cornfused!! Did you saw the barrel in two at the tenon base and then about half way down the tenon?

You may have just voided the warranty..

Why didn't you just check the runout, set it back the required amount , and rechamber 6mm br?

Did you modify (put a reamer in) the barrel? or is this guy FOS?

Ben
 
I'm screwed / stuck with it.
Here is the last email I got from the guy that chambered it:

heartburn! "accurate description". I have looked at and re-looked at those 2 pictures. Just as I told you on the phone, I only want to do the right thing.. I know that I sent you a fine used barrel.

Gentleman, this is what blunt packed reamer will give you. Mr. Crb, please don't be vulgar and don't use any violence against this gentleman.

Con
 
Why didn't you just check the runout, set it back the required amount , and rechamber 6mm br?

Did you modify (put a reamer in) the barrel? or is this guy FOS?

Ben

All I did to the bbl was turn off the back end of the tenon and move the threads and shoulder forward to match my Savage bolt head conversion bolt.

I already own the Beggs reamer so decided to go that way instead of buying a 6br reamer.
 
That was not a gunsmith that did that -- it was a blacksmith!:eek:
 
I just finished reaming a Hart barrel in 221 Fireball for a customer using my Gretan barrel flush system and was quite pleased with the results. Then I ate dinner and came in to check E-Mails and this website and nearly barfed. If someone wanted me to cut a chamber like that, I would not know how. The first thing that came to mind was a shop instructor who said you could make a chamber reamer by whittling out the cartridge shape you wanted out of tool steel on a lathe and taking a 1/4 cut down the length with an end mill and then hardening it. Never tried that, but it looks like someone did.
 
What really ticks me off is that the guy says I did something to the chamber to make it look like that. You could only duplicate that mess while doing a %^& poor job of reaming. There is no way you could duplicate that mess after the fact.
 
What really ticks me off is that the guy says I did something to the chamber to make it look like that. You could only duplicate that mess while doing a %^& poor job of reaming. There is no way you could duplicate that mess after the fact.

Gentleman, this is a clear warning to all those who prefer to grind rather then ream. When you save and enlarge the middle pic. one can clearly see the direction of the packing galling effect when the chips manage to get under the blunt grinding edge.

Mr. Crb, please don't get violent.

Con
 
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