Coopers

Pete Wass

Pete Wass

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There are several folks here in Maine shooting Factory Coopers in our IR 50/50 matches and I gotta tell ya, I find them quite imressive for a "Factory" rifle. Pretty hard to beat the cost of them in comparison to a rifle built from custom parts.
 
The first 250 I shot was with a stock Cooper..............of course I finished 3rd but it still was a 250.
 
The quest for better and better costs are reasonable until you get to a certain point. Then to go beyond that the cost for small increments of better sky rocket. 250's ? Coopers, sure. Consistent 250's and winning X counts, probably not. JMHO.
 
glp said:
The quest for better and better costs are reasonable until you get to a certain point. Then to go beyond that the cost for small increments of better sky rocket. 250's ? Coopers, sure. Consistent 250's and winning X counts, probably not. JMHO.
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If only one could find a rifle to give consistent 250's, eh ?
 
Dave S said:
There are a lot of rifles out there that will shoot consistent 250"s.. It finding the shooters that can shoot them that's the problem....;)

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I don't quite agree with that. I don't think there are a lot of RF rifles that stay in tune in all atmopheric conditions to deliver consistent 250's. I believe there are a few, as there are some that shoot beter in the wind but they don't exist in big numbers.
 
Having tested a number of rifles during and just after the process of being produced, I agree with Dave S. I think the lack of shooter talent and the fate of our ammo to be a very large factor in limiting the number of 250s shot. I also think sometimes shooters take a great rifle and in messing around with them sometimes turn them into a mediocre shooter just because they don't know what they are doing. Gordon and I were just talking about this the other day. He has seen some great shooting rifles go out his shop that have not yet reached their potential in the hands of the shooter that purchased them. Either they somehow mess them up or they haven't quite figured out how to shoot in enough conditions to get the most out of them. Let's face it 250's are tough to come by. There are still more ways to miss a shot than to make it. The great rifles can reduce a shooter's margin of error by being less wind sensitive (such that they allow you to hold off on the edge of the 10 ring in most light to moderate winds) but even those that are a bit more wind sensitive can yield there fair share of 250's if the shooter learns the proper hold-offs for the conditions. Also, I think some shooter's don't pay enough attention to setting-up their rests/bags. Example: I was at the IR Nationals last year and saw a shooter with rear bag that was not in-line with his front bag. He was doomed right from the start.
 
Well, i shot in the Cooper Shoot East today with a borrowed rifle. The rifle shot a 250-19 and the second place rifle shot a 250-18, the only 250,s but there were a couple of 249's and some 248's and 247's in the first of match.

We shot two IR 50/50 type targets for a match, standard IR 50/50 format. First place had 499- 36 and second place had 498-37, both off the shelf riflres. Both of em shoot exceptionally well and as well as my Turbo. Of the rifles there today, I believe most of them were capable of shooting 250's.
 
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I shoot in a factory sporter class shoot every month at Piney Hills. We shoot factory sporter guns off bipods or front rest and a rear bag. I am only one of two out of 17-18 shooters that usually shoot a Cooper. I am mid 240's shooter. I have shot a 249 with my gun before but never a 250. Like said above Cooper's are very accurate but I have come to the conclusion that they are a little harder to shoot than the Annies that I shoot against. After shooting thousands of rounds through mine I have found they are a little more sensitive to how you hold them compared to the Annies I have shot. Coopers are great but Annies are hard to beat.
 
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