I hope he meant to say F-class instead of XTC. Otherwise he's cheating! ;-)
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I hope he meant to say F-class instead of XTC. Otherwise he's cheating! ;-)
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Mad`
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Uh yeah, I have been to a couple of champion BR shoots in my time. I'm a little unclear on your word "champion"?
Most everyone on this website have been to a "champion" BR shoot. And I guess you could say a lot of the folks here have won big matches/"champion" or points races now and then.
What is your friends name and what is he "champion" of?
Dale McClure
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geneinnc
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Gary, lets start selling your shooting rest system. I can get the 2" x 4", err I mean the rear rest, at cost.
You can autograph the front sandbag for $20 extra, the "signature" series.
I'll set up my 40 X camera and we will even supply a video you shooting a 250 with your equipment.
$99.95 delivered sound about right?
I have this rest and it could not work any better for 200 bucks. Its heavy and solid will not move. Its perfect for what I do 50 yard usbr. I am sure an 800.00 dollar rest would be better but being for now my most expensive gun is Annie mpr at 1000.00 bucks its just fine. And I expect to get an unlimited gun at 1500.00 to 2500.00 and will still use this rest. I am sure if I shot with everyone who had calfee turbo's and farleys I would probably have them also. So anyone wanting a very nice trick rest without losing an arm should buy it
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cwop
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caldwell
my neighbors name is gary call and i cant spell silloute so this is close. he has all sorts of plaques and medals. he has in the past went every year either to pa or ratoune nm for these shoots.
he says participation in the past years have been declining and he has sort of lost interest but believe me he can shoot wherever and however he chooses to do it.
he is also an egg shooter out at 300 yards standing not sitting.
some people can do anything and he is one of them
bob
my neighbors name is gary call and i cant spell silloute so this is close. he has all sorts of plaques and medals. he has in the past went every year either to pa or ratoune nm for these shoots.
he says participation in the past years have been declining and he has sort of lost interest but believe me he can shoot wherever and however he chooses to do it.
he is also an egg shooter out at 300 yards standing not sitting.
some people can do anything and he is one of them
bob
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cwop
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caldwell
hey you b/r guys im not running anyone down. my congratulations to all of you guys that can shoot a rare talent and whether you want to admit it or not you are competitors nothing wrong wth this for my part.
i just expressed my thoughts that with a 4,000.00 rifle and who knows how much other stuff you have you will do whatever it takes to win honestly that is.
i for one am not finding fault or telling you how to do your sport. the man just asked for an opinion on a caldwell rest and some were given. now you guys that shoot the big time there is a world of difference betweein the guy that uses a caldwell rest and a pappas. matter of fact i would like to have a pappas rest.
jsut remember some of us shoot for fun and we are miles apart from you big hitters cut us some slack but i like to read and learn to improve my shooting if i can but i cant afford or justify the equipment you have although i just got ahold of a calfree 40x i want to play with. i hope it will shoot!
good luck this year jsut remember us little guys
bob
hey you b/r guys im not running anyone down. my congratulations to all of you guys that can shoot a rare talent and whether you want to admit it or not you are competitors nothing wrong wth this for my part.
i just expressed my thoughts that with a 4,000.00 rifle and who knows how much other stuff you have you will do whatever it takes to win honestly that is.
i for one am not finding fault or telling you how to do your sport. the man just asked for an opinion on a caldwell rest and some were given. now you guys that shoot the big time there is a world of difference betweein the guy that uses a caldwell rest and a pappas. matter of fact i would like to have a pappas rest.
jsut remember some of us shoot for fun and we are miles apart from you big hitters cut us some slack but i like to read and learn to improve my shooting if i can but i cant afford or justify the equipment you have although i just got ahold of a calfree 40x i want to play with. i hope it will shoot!
good luck this year jsut remember us little guys
bob
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cwop
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to mad
mad your quite a man i hope i didnt anger you i didnt intend to do that. im sorry if i did will you accept my apology.
bob
mad your quite a man i hope i didnt anger you i didnt intend to do that. im sorry if i did will you accept my apology.
bob
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Mad5757
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I look at it this way:
When I go to a match I expect to win. Otherwise I wouldn't bother. You spend big bucks on your rifle, scope, gas, ammo, and maybe a hotel room, food, why skimp on the most important piece of equipment? You have to pay to play. You have to have the very best equipment money can buy. You can bet some of your competitors have the best equipment, and that instantly puts them at an advantage over the guys that don't, before the first shot is fired. Good luck, Dale
When I go to a match I expect to win. Otherwise I wouldn't bother. You spend big bucks on your rifle, scope, gas, ammo, and maybe a hotel room, food, why skimp on the most important piece of equipment? You have to pay to play. You have to have the very best equipment money can buy. You can bet some of your competitors have the best equipment, and that instantly puts them at an advantage over the guys that don't, before the first shot is fired. Good luck, Dale
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cwop
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caldwell
mad thats the difference we are not in your league good for you but we want something better than bags is this i dont know.
i would imagine your cost per match is way up there with fuel, food, equipment, lodging and other stuff. maybe the guys question should have been posted somewhere else.
but its your hobby and its not a money maker i in turn recognize i am not a competitor at your leval and wouldnt expect for you to even consider a caldwell setup.
you had the same reaction to it my neighbor had but i expected that and now i know you feel like he does but how about say a beginner he has to start someplace and maybe he is a potential b/r with a small pocketbook at present. i hope you see where im coming from.
the cost of all this is stopping a lot of new shooters when they hear the outlay believe me!
bob
mad thats the difference we are not in your league good for you but we want something better than bags is this i dont know.
i would imagine your cost per match is way up there with fuel, food, equipment, lodging and other stuff. maybe the guys question should have been posted somewhere else.
but its your hobby and its not a money maker i in turn recognize i am not a competitor at your leval and wouldnt expect for you to even consider a caldwell setup.
you had the same reaction to it my neighbor had but i expected that and now i know you feel like he does but how about say a beginner he has to start someplace and maybe he is a potential b/r with a small pocketbook at present. i hope you see where im coming from.
the cost of all this is stopping a lot of new shooters when they hear the outlay believe me!
bob
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jcwit
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You are absolutly right cwop. One time at a shoot and they run the other way when they see what expense is involved.
Check old thread here on Rimfire benchrest titled, How do you keep them comming back.
Check old thread here on Rimfire benchrest titled, How do you keep them comming back.
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Bill Ohio
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How about just competing for fun?
Whether or not one wins, let one be valiant in the effort.
Being valiant ain't about spending top dollar. It's about showing up, and conducting oneself with good sportsmanship. Priceless.
Whether or not one wins, let one be valiant in the effort.
Being valiant ain't about spending top dollar. It's about showing up, and conducting oneself with good sportsmanship. Priceless.
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Mad5757
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Who said anything about being valiant? It's dog eat dog.
Think not? You are mistaken.
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Mad5757
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Then go get yourself a Caldwell and pay your entry fee. There ya go..........
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cwop
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caldwell
well im a ham operotor and believe me you can get into some big bux there too. why because we are compitive it takes some expensive gear to be heard around the world when you shouldnt be heard at all.
how about 200 ft rotating towers minimum of 20k for those and then i wont tell what the transmitting and recieving equipment costs. now there are some people that have the big bux and 50k doesnt mean anything to you.
how about amplifiers that put out as much power as a radio station and sometimes more strictly illegal of course.
then there are the 30k a year guys trying to compete against that do you see where im coming from?
i say let each of us do what we want to do and then the pros do what they want to do but be kind and tolerant to one another. is this too much? we duffers do want to improve if you will share things.
bob
bob
well im a ham operotor and believe me you can get into some big bux there too. why because we are compitive it takes some expensive gear to be heard around the world when you shouldnt be heard at all.
how about 200 ft rotating towers minimum of 20k for those and then i wont tell what the transmitting and recieving equipment costs. now there are some people that have the big bux and 50k doesnt mean anything to you.
how about amplifiers that put out as much power as a radio station and sometimes more strictly illegal of course.
then there are the 30k a year guys trying to compete against that do you see where im coming from?
i say let each of us do what we want to do and then the pros do what they want to do but be kind and tolerant to one another. is this too much? we duffers do want to improve if you will share things.
bob
bob
Come on guys. I have had mine since they came out and not a bit of problems. One guy said they loosen up. Yea but all you do is tighten it back up. Its adjustable. You can make it as stiff as ya want it.Just like taking viagra. I know a pretty good piece of equipment when I see and use one. There is nothing bad about this rest. Caldwell knows when there is a market for something and their stuff is very good usually for the money. They are on backorder that should tell ya something. That means there is a market for it and that is must be pretty damn good cause word would get around and nobody would be buying them. So untill I get me a calfee rifle and a Farley rest My Anschutz and fire control will do just fine. And I promise you when and if I do step up someone will buy it from me
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Bill Ohio
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widen your perspective, friend
To ascribe your value set to another person is to err. Your views are almost assuredly quite different than another person's. You should respect their right to choose differently than what you deem to be the only sensible course.
In other words, you're FOS and uptight. But that's your prerogative, as it is your right to be wrong.
To ascribe your value set to another person is to err. Your views are almost assuredly quite different than another person's. You should respect their right to choose differently than what you deem to be the only sensible course.
In other words, you're FOS and uptight. But that's your prerogative, as it is your right to be wrong.
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cwop
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caldwell rest
well i bet that guy wishes he had never made this post. why dont you competitive shooters get it! you are dog eat dog shooters and are out to win.
some of us want to play in our backyard and shoot but still want to do as well as we can with our limited equipment. its apparent there are some people that hate one anohter for some reason.
its too bad we cant be civil to one another and triy to help one another. i personally will never go to a shoot i am just not that good and with cataracts i find it a true struggle but i like to shoot.
you guys help us dont shoot us down you give b/r a bad name
bob
well i bet that guy wishes he had never made this post. why dont you competitive shooters get it! you are dog eat dog shooters and are out to win.
some of us want to play in our backyard and shoot but still want to do as well as we can with our limited equipment. its apparent there are some people that hate one anohter for some reason.
its too bad we cant be civil to one another and triy to help one another. i personally will never go to a shoot i am just not that good and with cataracts i find it a true struggle but i like to shoot.
you guys help us dont shoot us down you give b/r a bad name
bob
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Mad`
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We got one genius making personal attacks, and his buddy is engaged in non stop crying. And neither one has contributed a damn thing to the original posters question.
What part of "go get your Caldwell and pay your entry fee", don't you understand?
What part of "go get your Caldwell and pay your entry fee", don't you understand?
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Bill Ohio
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What a tool you are...
Throw your temper tantrum in the corner, and get back on your meds. Steady nerves are an advantage in competition. But maybe you like living up to your board handle, MAD.
As to the O/Ps question, he should absolutely try the Caldwell rest and see if it works for him. At that price point, you can't go wrong, and it might well go right. It's always easy to let other (especially arrogant, condescending, dismissive) shooters spend your money. But remember, it's YOUR money, and don't let anybody browbeat you into a decision that only you can ultimately decide.
Throw your temper tantrum in the corner, and get back on your meds. Steady nerves are an advantage in competition. But maybe you like living up to your board handle, MAD.
As to the O/Ps question, he should absolutely try the Caldwell rest and see if it works for him. At that price point, you can't go wrong, and it might well go right. It's always easy to let other (especially arrogant, condescending, dismissive) shooters spend your money. But remember, it's YOUR money, and don't let anybody browbeat you into a decision that only you can ultimately decide.
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