Buying specific Lapua lots

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Dan Killough's site is awesome for purchasing specific lots of Eley ammunition, but one rifle I have only shoots Lapua Midas Plus. I also find it works well in nearly all rifles I have.

I'd like to find a complementary site to Dan's that lists lots and overall understands that the specific lot numbers of their inventory is key. I called one site (won't mention their name) and they were, well, less than helpful about ordering the same lot I ordered 3 weeks prior.

Thank you for the help!
 
Call charlie Scott, 913=649-7658. He doesn't have a website but has the largest inventory and understands lots. He will let you know what he has and send you test lots if you like.
 
They say that there are no dumb questions, so I'll ask this one.

We have seen the advertised velocity with Eley vary as much as 50 feet per second from lot to lot. Is it possible that Lapua is more consistent?

I shoot Eley Black of a chosen lot because it shoots best in my rifle but I suspect that the pushing the different lots is a marketing plan. I have been a manufacturer and I can say without doubt that uniformity is one of the things we strive for. One of the others is to maximize profits.

Concho Bill
 
I have yet to see any ryme or reason to ammo lots according to the speed printed on the box. Either they shoot or they don't is about all I can see so far. I tested 8 lots of ammo this past weekend and only found one for each rifle that shot competatively. I keep hoping the "Numbers Crunchers" will come up with a way to make all lot numbers shoot competatively in our rifles.
 
I have yet to see any ryme or reason to ammo lots according to the speed printed on the box. Either they shoot or they don't is about all I can see so far. I tested 8 lots of ammo this past weekend and only found one for each rifle that shot competatively. I keep hoping the "Numbers Crunchers" will come up with a way to make all lot numbers shoot competatively in our rifles.
Pete, You bought at least 8 boxes of ammo to test out before you bought your ammo. The ammo makers will sell every box of ammo they make anyway so why make it too easy for us. They sell more ammo this way. Good marketing plan.

Concho Bill
 
Call charlie Scott, 913=649-7658. He doesn't have a website but has the largest inventory and understands lots. He will let you know what he has and send you test lots if you like.

Thanks for the tip Don, I called Charlie today and he had 3 bricks of the lot that is shooting great. Nice guy too!
 
They say that there are no dumb questions, so I'll ask this one.

We have seen the advertised velocity with Eley vary as much as 50 feet per second from lot to lot. Is it possible that Lapua is more consistent?

I shoot Eley Black of a chosen lot because it shoots best in my rifle but I suspect that the pushing the different lots is a marketing plan. I have been a manufacturer and I can say without doubt that uniformity is one of the things we strive for. One of the others is to maximize profits.

Concho Bill

i have tested many lots of eley from dan and others. i have tested lots from charlie and flykiller. to be honest when using my chrony lapua has the least speed spread. the difference is it is way freaking hot!!!! to anybody wanting to test eley vs. lapua eley may have a much larger spread spread, but lapua is just way to damned fast to win.

i have picked up lapua lots for colder weather. in the summer eley will be you best chance till lapua listens to the world and slows it's stuff way down. frankly lapua only shoots for me when it is cold as the guy who complains all the time about calfee's attitude?
 
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Hi Side-burn,

I wrote a piece earlier this eveing in answer to a similar thread and Bill is close to the mark. Perhaps in this discussion, we should start by asking Eley the obvious question - why for example, does Eley 'advertise' their speed deviations and others such as Lapua - do not see the same need.

Interestingly, Eley say (on their web-site) that their ammo speed is rated at 1085 fps but I've never seen anything close to that. The best we've seen here is 1071 fps and as low as 1044 fps. Its obvious that the manufacturing processes of which Eley are so proud, do in fact, produce such a spread of results (i.e. in speed) that instead of attempting to fix the obvious problems, they've decided to use that as a marketing edge. Are we all that stupid to just ignore this obvious fact...

I would suggest that their manufacturing is in fact - by their own published evidence - incapable of delivering a consistent product. Of course the reverse is true for Lapua and we'll never know what sort of spread (in speed) they produce other than recognising the odd good 'batch'. I'm sure we all experience the odd dropped shot or two per box which would (generally) indicate a slower round.

I have a Anschutz BR-50 which when new, showed a liking for Eley Match but as it's become 'seasoned', has shown a distinct liking for the Lapua Midas Plus and if as suggested above by Pete, becasue the longer barrel seems to suit it.

Perhaps someone could ask Bob Collins to explain this difference between published speed and reality which given their modern manufacturing excellence, I find quite strange and indeed, in any other field of manufacturing - this 'range' of finished goods and poor quality control, would be totally unacceptable.

I think we should start there and I'd love to hear from the maufacturer but won't hold my breath.

Cheers from downunder

Cary
 
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