Bought a new Panda action.

Peter,

Just for clarification.

Most benchrest shooters full length size there cases. My custom die, made by the same guys that chambered my barrels, sizes the base by 3/10ths of a thou and sizes the top of the body of the case by a full 3 thou. Essentially the cases taper is a little steeper than the chamber. It shoots very well.

The bottom of the neck is left unsized with the sizing stopping just below the base of the bullet. In effect what you are saying does happen since the full expanded area at the base of the neck centres up the case along with the very close fit of the base of the case. There are two rings of contact one at each end of the case aligning the round with the neck over the bullet being usually 1 - 2 thou smaller than the chamber, I use 1.5 thou over the bulk of the bullet and 1 thou over the pressure ring at the base of the bullet.

My "problem" with the ejector as shown, having shot one, is that it is possible to leave a case lying in the action if for some reason you are a bit delicate with the bolt operation. If you are used to the handling and that is all you shoot then no issue but coming from no ejector or a plunger ejector that pops the case out as soon as it clears the port with the bolt still not on the stop you might get caught out. Still, that is why the Panda comes with other options for ejection.

Bryce
 
Boyd-Bryce-Mike

Thanks for all your advice, but I can't stop to have a feeling that this subject can be debated forever, unless someone can physically prove that's possible to shrink groups from the same rifle just by removing a spring loaded plunger ejector.

I always keep my eyes open for anything that's better.

Shoot better
Peter
 
I agree that this could be debated forever but the purpose of the ejector is not to shrink groups because it makes the rifle more accurate. It enables the shooter who likes to run a condition to shoot very fast and that will contribute to smaller groups if he/she is able to finish a group during the favored condition. Like I said, if a shooter chooses not to use this ejector Kelbly offers a Panda in almost any configuration desired. I've never used this action but will have the rifle finished pretty soon and will be able to form an opinion based on actual use.

I did fit a case in just the bare action and it takes very little movement to eject a case. I can see where a shooter may ease the bolt back, stopping before it's fully to the rear thereby causing a case to stay in the rifle. That's exactly what happens with a rifle with no ejector. I just can't imagine that ever giving me a problem and that's all I have to be concerned with.
 
MColeman

Thanks for the Pics. Its a BEAUTY. Looking forward to hear the results.
Good Luck with it.

Ed
 
Mickey, I'm sure that once you get used to working the action, you'll have it down like second nature. That is unless you swap back and forth between different rifles with different configurations. Nothing throws me off more than going from a RB/LP/RE to a rifle without an ejector. I've now settled on what I like and am sticking to it...unless someone comes out with something better:D
 
Mickey, I disagree

MColeman said:
I agree that this could be debated forever but the purpose of the ejector is not to shrink groups because it makes the rifle more accurate. It enables the shooter who likes to run a condition to shoot very fast and that will contribute to smaller groups if he/she is able to finish a group during the favored condition. .
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Mickey

I'm of an opinion, that most people who choose this "controlled" type of ejector would be those, who believe that the spring loaded plunger type ejector is "pushing" the chambered round to one side and "creating" a misalignement.

I also believe that a spring loaded plunger ejector is about 1" of a bolt travel faster and more user proof.

I also believe that you'll master the thing and do very well with it.

Shoot better
Peter
 
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